Nobody wants any of this, literally every human alive just wants google to work like it did in 2010
Please think about the Shareholders 😭😭
I don't even see how this benefits shareholders
I think it's a situation where Google already had the Perfect Product, but capitalism can't just like, leave things be, no, there always has to be this fucking attempt to squeeze blood from the stones, and now they're doing that but it's entirely in vain entirely for no real purpose or end goal
Ed Zitron wrote a really good article about how Google was intentionally made shittier by their advertising division. They actually made their algorithm worse on purpose because it was working "too well" (ie: people were getting the results they wanted very quickly without having to scroll past stupid fucking advertisements).
Perfect doesn't mean profit maxxing.
I can't wait for google to quietly kill this in a year, by which point hopefully their market share will have collapsed.
Inshallah.
Won't this undermine googles own ad business?
As I understand it - Google's new plan is to keep people at google.com (etc) as absolutely long as possible with AI slop and the like. And - this is just my assumption - they'll cram in tons of news ads into the page.
Yep. Starting in 2019 the Ads department internally defeated the Search department and successfully degraded the quality of the algorithm in order to keep people searching.
I just posted about this above before I read your comment. Here is the article that describes what happened:
The giveaway in the article is the example they give about having an ongoing live search for specific stock market parameters and how the Google search agent will recommend the 'services' you need including their market analysis product.
They're moving away from 'free' search to build a sales funnel towards their paid subscription products.
again??
So, how is Yandex looking as a daily use search engine? I mostly only use it for 
but it always seemed consistent to me in terms of leaving out dumb bullshit like what Google includes.
I mostly only use it for...
work?
did the emoji not display? i meant piracy
yeah, work 
I saw an ad today while watching the Gagarin Cup finals (
LETS GO LOCOMOTIVE!! ) that sounded like yandex is also adding in ai "features", but my Russian is still very basic so I could have misunderstood
Same I use it for roms, but now it's going to be a daily driver.
Same I use it for roms
Somewhat random reply, but there's a fantastic archive of everything that was on myrient that works via torrents, so it can't be easily taken down
Schaweet ty
I love making complete sentences and more to describe something I should be able to search for using 2 keywords
I'm privileged by being able to afford Kagi, it's really night and day. Even just the fact that nobody can buy out a hostile ad to phish me/infect me with malware
it says like $5/mo for 300 searches or $10/mo for unlimited. do you have an estimate of how many searches you do?
i can imagine wanting unlimited because a single search usually is actually like five searches as i try to refine, my searches are iterative.
also $10/mo feels excessive. my vpn is less than that and i hammer that thing 24-7 on multiple devices, including a seedbox.
I've run out of 300 searches in a few days, so I'm running unlimited now.
Good lord what the hell are you doing on the computer that you need 300 separate searches in a few days?
beanis
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10$ per month is just a lot for me. Have to stick to duckduckgo
That works too
I don't want to encourage pay-to-use websites but then again - if Google's new search is as bad as it seems - I'll stop using it. Also - I assume google will kill off a great deal of independent news media and replace it greater and greater amounts of AI slop.
Ultimately, things have to pay for themselves. A model where you outright pay for the service of search seems to be one of the fairest, bar distributed/community-owned search engines.
it's refreshing and very worth it, imo
Just use ublock?
That works too, as long as the correct results are at all there
I edited it to change the order of the sentences.
The new search box is arriving this week, and generative UI is arriving this summer. Both are free. The mini-app-building feature and information agents will roll out first to Google AI Pro and Ultra subscribers this summer.
Combined, these changes will likely further decimate Google referrals to publishers, which have already been suffering from declining referrals due to AI Overviews. This has put some ad-dependent media operations out of business, and now things will likely get worse. There’s little time left for publishers to adapt.
I only scanned article but the new search looks like a nightmare. I don't want a "custom experience". And I do not want google saying "Good morning, InevitableSwing".
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I never thought I'd pay for search but if this is even 1/5th as bad as I'm expecting - once all the shit arrives - I might pay for Kagi. I just want fucking links. I do not want to be managed or manipulated or force-fed AI.
They're all trash now
Thanks to this thread, I learned that metacrawler still exists
I wonder how sneaky or subtle other searches' presentation will be as they bend the knee to the machine emperor
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So they're offering a "premium" paid service, I wonder if they'll just make a version of that that is just the old google search without any AI bullshit.
I just hope this doesn't effect my SearX fork too much, it's already struggling to work maybe 75% of the time, though 25% is better than 0% that I'd be getting from google if they actually start implementing this stuff.
So how are the people who make websites supposed to make money in this environment? No one will click on their links.
startpage.com
I've seen a number of people recommend ecosia.org as a search engine. Seems promising, although tbh I was immediately turned off by the "ai chat" that they have integrated into their search bar. But, no automatic AI summary at least.
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