Weird that EU is sending so much money to Hungary, quite weird for an enemy organization.
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A city guide I met in Budapest a few years back gave me a brief history lesson about Hungary.
"If there's a right and a wrong choice, Hungary will chose wrong."
History backs her up.
I once heard “they will eventually do the right thing … after trying all the wrong options”. I think it was about the US or EU though.
I just can't wrap my head around the fact that this guy is still getting enough votes to remain relevant. I just don't understand how he could stay in power, if Hungary would actually be allied with Russia instead of the EU the people of Hungary would suffer so much as well, not just woke things like freedom to be yourself or affordable education and healthcare but also financially and economically their lives would be so much worse. How are so many people voting for him wtf.
Also I don't quite get how Orban can hope to fill his pockets with as much free money as currently should Hungary fall to Russia.
For the very same reason Trump got elected despite the facts he was a corrupt politician, a failed businessman and a pedophile were well known by the rest of the world: control of the media narratives give his voters an alternate reality in which he's the good guy.
Edit: typo
He's not entirely wrong – the EU is certainly a greater threat to his attempt at an authoritarian regime as the Kremlin Empire. At least I hope so.
The door is wide open, who's stoping you? Join Russia.
As long as Orban is in the government, hungary should have its voting rights removed. Over the past 10 years they have been nothing but destructive and ever since the invasion of Ukraine, they have been actively hostile, as they did everything to keep money flowing to Russia.
If the Hungarians vote for this fat fuck again, they deserve everything that's coming for them. Hopefully the EU turns into the European Federation and doesn't invite Hungary in.
If Hungary doesn't like the EU so much, just fucking leave and STFU. Nobody's forcing you to stay. In fact, I don't know if anybody, besides right-wingers / Pooteen lovers, want Hungary in the EU.
I understand your frustration, but it saddens me that it makes you want further divide. Hungary is currently a captured state where lawyers are rewriting constitution on their whims and are the head of the maffia as well. Orbán is using every dirty trick to hold on to power. They have already circumvented the parliament and have been ruling by decree since the immigration wave from the Syrian war (and keep extending it for covid, for the 'ukraine' war).
I urge you to look upon us with empathy. We are a pluralistic people who are locked under tyrants. The ruling party is extremely careful to not initiate any state aggression during protests, otherwise we'd have similar clashes as Belorussia had during the last elections. Very trying times.
I sympathize and wish you strength and opportunity to change your circumstance. But in the end it is the Hungarian people who need to take action to change. Being "locked under tyrants" was not someone else's doing.
You are mostly right, but when it's promoting division, I will nit-pick:
The EU funds have propped up the government, and free movement has let the most frustrated leave the country. I do not lay blame at the feet of Europe, but it is important to see the situation for what it is.
We are the only ones who can do anything, I agree. I love Europe and feel as much a citizen of Europe as of Hungary (sometimes even more).
Thank you for your well-wishes. I am a bit sceptic of any real change, even if Tisza gets (super-)majority, but hope is the last to die. I'd say I'll be happy as soon as we're part of the European Public Prosecutor's Office. We really crave justice.
Sure. EU rules are lacking, perhaps because the rule makers did not (want to?) anticipate willfull sabotage by a member state. That's on them. So it took way too long for the EU to stop propping up this regime.
As for any kind of super majority I sincerly hope people will not make that mistake again. Way too risky. AFAIK this is what enabled this lot in the first place.
Anyway, best of luck!
What would EU lose if Hungary leaves?
As much as I love travelling there for beautiful cities and delicious cuisine, I wonder more about the economic and political consequences for the EU.
Cheap labour for manufacturing, a bunch of German car factories, the 2 million strong city of Budapest.
And land access to the Eastern flank of the EU and NATO. It would cut both alliances in half in the geographical sense.
Putin and Trump would be very happy.
Orban is ramping his deceiful rhetoric ahead of difficult elections. Making sutff up to scare people, for instance
Orbán has campaigned on the unsubstantiated premise that the EU would send Hungarians to their deaths in neighboring Ukraine if his party loses
The best thing that could happen is Orban loosing to a less extremist candidate, not Hungary leaving the EU.
We can only hope Hungary citizens don't reelect an extremist.
That two-speed EU thing really got to him huh?
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