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[-] FatVegan@leminal.space 10 points 14 hours ago

I'd be confused if my lawyer would use gmail. It would be like walking into his office and he uses alexa.

[-] nqua@sh.itjust.works 5 points 14 hours ago

if your lawyer uses google, microsoft or apple for email, maybe better look for another lawyer...

everything one of these (or other) giants know can be assumend to be compromised already in one way or possibly many others or at least in near future.

imagine you email your client some note, that he should carry some documents next time and the giant running word probability algorythms only to look later at the real outcome of the trial and the tactics used by you in front of court to be able to warn THEIR customers about what YOU might currently try to do in front of a court to win against someone. it intentionally removes parts of the value of your work to sell that to their customers while using data that is supposed to be private for reasons.

a lawyer who gives away hints about any of his actions to a tech giant NOW has a high probability that his work isnt worth a dime any longer in mid-term future only because of how lazy he was with his and his clients privacy TODAY.

just to mention.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

The thing is, most people don't care about privacy. Even if the person knows about the broader privacy issue, he/she may not care. It's all about convenience and dopamine hit in the modern digitised world.

Also, the most privacy-respecting emails has less brand name recognition. Most people are accustomed to Gmail, Outlook and Yahoo. If they see Tuta as the email address, most people would think it's odd and maybe even fake. In an industry where reputation and name recognition is important, especially in legal, Tuta would sound suspicious. I know I would feel the same if I weren't familiar with Tuta and the lawyers uses Tuta. I know there is Proton, which has a more marketable name, but the CEO is a fascist-loving Trumper so it's not any better for privacy in the future.

[-] nqua@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

the point is that people who don't care go to lawyers to tell them how to move forward with appropriate caution. and privacy with a lawyers actual communication should be included. remember how lawyers (in movies tbh) often say 'let me talk, dont say anything at all', thats "maybe" because saying anything could reveal something the other party could use to win. if that doesnt include emails to be private, then why not directly use facebook or 4chan instead to tell the ither party how to win against your client? *lol

so if your lawyer doesnt take specific caution into account by himself what he would be supposed to tell you to do anyway, that lawyer is imo at best a risky bet.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

I don't disagree. Although like I said, most people don't really care about privacy. It's a lot of hassle for them. Privacy is a nebulous idea that is not given much thought. If it's out of sight, then it's out of mind, until they see the objective consequences. I've lost count how many organisations I have heard to have been hacked, because the management didn't pay enough attention to cybersecurity. Hell, most people already forgot that Musk and DOGE stole data from government files. But even then, it didn't get enough uproar as much as other issues and brazen corruption.

[-] stormeuh@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

I'd expect even small scale legal firms to have their own domain name with email these days, but even then that doesn't guarantee anything. If you have a subscription to either MS or Google's business suite, you can get custom domain email for basically the cost of registering the domain name.

The only way I see your data not touching any US cloud provider is with a tech-savvy and privacy-conscious lawyer, and I suspect those are rare. Large firms may also still have their own infrastructure, but those are probably expensive as hell.

[-] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Yet another reason I'm glad I switched to Tutanota.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 48 points 1 day ago

The bit about avoidance might be insightful. Some people have anxiety about reading and writing, and the LLMs feel like they're helping. But as this post says, they're not. They're making the anxiety worse in the long term.

Many people legitimately are bad at reading and writing. You'll won't find a ton of them here, on a platform that's mostly text, but they're out there. Struggling though life, probably embarrassed. An LLM that purports to let them skip uncomfortably engaging with text probably feels like a godsend. But it's a trap. It's a tarpit they'll get stuck in and never develop skills of their own.

[-] Paragone@piefed.social 6 points 20 hours ago

I think you're missing the fundamental-intent:

learned-helplessness.

A population which has been beaten & brainwashed into learned-helplessness, is a population who can be mere-carrion, fed-upon long-term.

All the battering we're getting from apparently-intentionally-wrong-design, UI & UX, and all the endless-battering from AI's displacing reality from our world, well, if the point is to make certain that we don't resist having our worth "appropriated" from us by the corporations which feed on our lives .. then it's working, isn't it?

It isn't us using as tools the good stuff, it is us not-having-any-say-anymore, & just aquiescing to anything that is decided on our behalf, re continual-machiavellian-licensing-alterations, re UI & UX, re everything!

The point is that we stop having any say, & get used to being used/abused.

Globally.

In all contexts.

Battered into all-pervading helpless aquiescence.

That is the intent which matches the implimentation we're being subjected to.

"the benefit of the doubt" expired years ago, now.

This is DarkTriad war against our meaning, & validity, enforcing its totalitarian dominion through the tech our infrastructure is.

Because not-for-profits are as machiavellian as the for-profits ( as sickening as that is ), then there is NOBODY competing against the machiavellianism, displacing that malicious infrastructure with good infrastructure.

Marginal-competition isn't counting in the world's economy ( PieFed.social, Lemmy.World, etc, do NOT compete against Reddit at the economics-scale, & the "journalism" of the world is helping to enforce non-competition, too. )

Our gov'ts have gone full-in backing that rigging of our world: no alternative, in their policy's eyes.

Ideally, some not-for-profits would begin competing against machiavellianism, & would begin simultaneously competing against the machiavellian infrastructure, but they'd have to do it against ALL the required-infrastructure, all the big-platforms..

What establishment would tolerate that?

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[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 points 17 hours ago

Why do-you like-hyphens so-much?

[-] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago

Its a form of short hand in text stylization to emphasize words.

Think of it as when someone quickly bites off a word to drive a point.

Much like have someone would CAPITALIZE a word to over emphasize something as if raising one's voice.

Or italicize or put to help over enunciate a word as if to speak it slowly and with pressure on every syllable.

Short hand verbal text communication is literally the body language of text communication. Hell it's become so common place that many modern fiction novels now use it.

And just like any other language there's even dialectics to it. So while it can be somewhat confusing to wander into a different community online and see different symbols and formats being used they are almost instantly understandable if you understand whats happening.

[-] Paragone@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago

Sorry, that's got nothing to do with it:

Thoughtshapes are themselves, & some are more "atomic", & others are more "molecular", & others are merely-associating.

I have to fight the urge to use "=" as double-hyphen, to indicate more-atomic, & "-" to indicate still-atomic-just-less, to try to communicate what thoughtshapes I'm meaning, & how their forms work/are.

Translating from thoughtshapes to English .. is clumsy-as-hell, breaks many meanings, & prevents entire categories of meaning from being expressible.

I've been told by multilingual-people that what I'm describing exactly matches their frustration with getting meanings from 1 language into another.


White psychology holds that there are only 3 innate-mind-languages: VAK..

  • Visual
  • Auditory
  • Kinesthetic

but there are 4, at-least:

  • Abstract-Shape cognizers
  • Visual cognizers
  • Auditory cognizers
  • Kinesthetic cognizers

Each of those is mind-blind to things that the other kinds can see.

Temple Grandin did a TED Talk on exactly that, but didn't mention the abstract-shape cognizers, iirc.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=temple+grandin+ted

She COULDN'T have put the Fukushima-reactor emergency-generators at the bottom of pits, beside the ocean, because she would have SEEN that the tsunami that hit the building, which those generators were supposed to provide power after, would have drowned the things.

Obviously, non-visual-cognizers made that decision, mind-blind to the consequences, obliterating the usefulness of them.

From what I've been able to discover, abstract-shape cognizers are common only in physics.

There aren't many ( I've met 2 others, that I'm certain of: I asked them, because their thinking was so different from the VAK types ), & it seems to be the only place where such kind-of-mind has significant .. either advantage, or familiarity, not certain which.


So, TL;DR is:

using hyphens in trying to communicate which thoughtshapes are more-atomic, vs which are merely-associating, using the clumsiness of English's words & grammar/syntax/punctuation,

so you people can get the actual feel for the intended thoughtshapes, themselves.

( instead of the English-bound approximations of them )

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[-] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 hours ago

Its like hand claps.

[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 24 points 1 day ago

I keep telling people that AI will atrophy their brain the same way that tools like Google Maps did. We can’t navigate for shit now unless a piece of software tells us the route. The same thing is going to happen, but to really important judgment and thinking skills.

[-] Paragone@piefed.social 3 points 19 hours ago

some of us were born without navigation, just as some of us were born with arithmetic-defect, or dyslexia, or face-blindness, or whatever.

We are locked-out without such help.

There is a balance between using help you actually-need, vs indulging-in-having-one's-capability-displaced-by-help.

THAT is the thing that is making AI into the lethal-recreational-drug that it's turning into.

People using it to substitute for reality, instead of using it for brainstorming & intelligently-condensing, or for editing-critique, etc.

If I ever get my not-for-profit started-up ( health problems come 1st ), then at this point I expect to have to fire about 19/20 of the people I hire, just because "if YOU sign-off on it, then YOU wrote it" .. just "does not compute", anymore, in this fake-fake-fake everything world.

When I found out that some people have a defect in their language-brain such that they CANNOT get spelling to work in English ( because their spelling is always auditory, & English is engineered to make that not-work ) .. & then I found out that dyslexia is MUCH worse in English than it is in Italian, same root-problem .. then I began understanding that English is engineered to lock-out many people, & I'd been blind to that..

just providing alternative-context, is all.

It's the same as the "in the old days, the tough survived, & that was the right way" .. yeah, except that accepting such a stupidly-high needless-death-rate to produce those few "successes" .. was sociopathic, by today's standards.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=fpas&q=1800%27s+playground&ia=images&iax=images

shows why broken-necks were so common in playgrounds, back in the early-photography days..

Nowadays children are DRASTICALLY more-likely to reach adulthood, & I think that's a good thing .. so the "weeding out" isn't quite so heavy-handed, now.

All disabilities, though, can be rigged into a weeding-out.

The shorter-lifespan of left-handed people ( enforced stress ) is but 1 example of systemic-bias's effects..

& I'm saying that over-relying on AI will, itself, produce a reduction-in-viability.

The "easy money: getting without giving" culture's narcissism .. isn't going anywhere!

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[-] oatscoop@midwest.social 5 points 1 day ago

I stopped using navigation for the most part. Mind you, I grew up using maps but it only took a couple months for my navigation skills to cone back.

[-] BigDiction@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

2023 is when I first got a vehicle with a nav display, and that definitely dulled the more detailed navigation senses.

Cardinal directions still solid but the take a left on Y after X street info I had been cataloging in the back of my mind fell off quickly once I started turn by turn directions all the time.

[-] MisterDeutsch@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

https://www.tumblr.com/thelawfulchaotic/807267774110089216?source=share

I wanted to see the original post in my feed, so here’s the link if anyone else wants to reblog.

[-] ccf@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I knew I was forgetting something. Thanks for the link, I'll add it to the post body just in case

[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 67 points 1 day ago

Here it is just outright spoiling a joke (censored, but you can see that it quotes the punchline):

Gemini giving away the punchline before one can even read the joke.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 12 hours ago

"Gemini, I'm thinking about reading the Harry Potter series. What can you tell me about it?"

"Snape kills Dumbledore."

...

"Nevermind, I'll read something else."

[-] khannie@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

Oh that's downright evil.

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 75 points 1 day ago

Concerned about privacy yet still using gmail, let's hope this was the wakeup call they needed!

[-] West_of_West@piefed.social 21 points 1 day ago

That was my take away too. Like I really wouldn't want my lawyer using Gmail.

[-] other_cat@piefed.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

I remember seeing some (small practice) doctor offices with gmail. And I was like... "Well, I'll never go there."

[-] FishFace@piefed.social 33 points 1 day ago

reading speed of 1500 wpm

this is bait

[-] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 31 points 1 day ago

That was the point where I thought "this guy is a wanker... but he's right"

[-] DomeGuy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Not if he's measuring his scanning speed and not his literal reading speed.

Which is the sort of thing that the folk who teach scanning to professionals who need to "read" hundreds of pages each day call their techniques. They used to be all over the place until enough people called them out on the mislabel.

(Not to mention three-cuing...)

[-] FishFace@piefed.social 14 points 1 day ago

He specifically says, "with full comprehension", so, like I said.

[-] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Full comprehension just means you gathered the intent of the point the writer was trying to get across. You can easily do that with 20% of the words they wrote if you pick the right words. Scanning is basically training to find all the important words to fully piece together the idea as quickly as possible.

So 25 words per second may sound like alot, but it's really the time necessary to find 5 words per second out of the crowd of 25. And like any other skill, it is something you get significantly better at with practice. Lawyers are gonna have alot of practice if they work on a skill like this.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 19 hours ago

Also specified "dense scientific text".

[-] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

Still has just as many predictable connective words you dont have to pay much attention to. And as long as you are familiar with all the terms you are encountering, it only makes a pretty small difference whether they are plain english or heavily latin derived.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago

That's not what "dense" means to me. Maybe it's just my mathematician bias, but I don't consider a text where less than 50% of the words are precise and non-trivially functional to be "dense".

[-] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Ah, I suppose if it's artificially created for whatever specific speed-test environment or something. But I just assume they would use the real structure of language for those. So I took his use of dense as being a somewhat redundant descriptor with scientific language(though likely leaning more towards heavily polysyllabic words). I figure, if one interpretation of the words he used leads to what he said making sense, and another leads to it not making sense, why assume he meant the latter?

Not to mention we're almost all Autistic here, so having random individual 'off the charts' abilities is gonna be pretty much the norm.

[-] eleijeep@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

Lawyering is well known to be a profession where words really aren't important so you can miss out every other one and still just get the gist. No court case has ever been decided by pedantry over wording or meaning in legal texts after all.

[-] TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

It's either that, or Legalese has an enormously low entropy.

[-] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

Full comprehension implies - to me at least - that you are not just picking up the "intent of the point" but also subtler cues. No, you don't need to read every single word in order to do that but 1500 words a minute with full comprehension is still horseshit.

[-] Paragone@piefed.social 2 points 19 hours ago

There are some people who can do page-at-a-time comprehension.

But I suspect that with lawyers, it is instead that it isn't words they are comprehending, rather, it is phrases which changes the whole equation.

I guarantee you that in legalese, there are a gazillion boilerplate/stock phrases, & once one recognizes the phrase, one can skip past it to see what that-"atom" pertains to.

Same as how, in music, one can see a particular phrase or series-of-phrases, & just flow through the playing of that, from one's programming, not bothering to concern oneself with the sheet-music until that phrase/series-of-phrases is ended.

I've encountered enough diversity-in-mental-capability that I'm not balking at that claim of theirs: it's possible from what I've encountered among others.

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[-] lime@feddit.nu 6 points 1 day ago

yeah that's three sentences a second

[-] khannie@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

25 words per second. Like would you ever jog on with that.

[-] Get_Off_My_WLAN@fedia.io 17 points 1 day ago

I remember how years ago, I had always kept my Gmail settings on full-paranoia lockdown mode, aside from the auto mailbox sorting feature. However, the first time I had to write an email from that account in a long while, Google's fucking suggested reply feature that uses all your email history showed up.

The fuck? I never gave permission for this shit.

After doing a deep-cleanse of all the settings on all my accounts again, I deleted all the emails after migrating them to Proton Mail, and keep Gmail accounts only to auto-forward and delete. Or to use the occasional bullshit Google form or document that needs a fucking Gmail login.

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

I always try to keep my privacy settings to "full paranoia" too. And livid that with each mandatory software update, Big Brother removes all my privacy settings 😠

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