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[-] nqua@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

if your lawyer uses google, microsoft or apple for email, maybe better look for another lawyer...

everything one of these (or other) giants know can be assumend to be compromised already in one way or possibly many others or at least in near future.

imagine you email your client some note, that he should carry some documents next time and the giant running word probability algorythms only to look later at the real outcome of the trial and the tactics used by you in front of court to be able to warn THEIR customers about what YOU might currently try to do in front of a court to win against someone. it intentionally removes parts of the value of your work to sell that to their customers while using data that is supposed to be private for reasons.

a lawyer who gives away hints about any of his actions to a tech giant NOW has a high probability that his work isnt worth a dime any longer in mid-term future only because of how lazy he was with his and his clients privacy TODAY.

just to mention.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

The thing is, most people don't care about privacy. Even if the person knows about the broader privacy issue, he/she may not care. It's all about convenience and dopamine hit in the modern digitised world.

Also, the most privacy-respecting emails has less brand name recognition. Most people are accustomed to Gmail, Outlook and Yahoo. If they see Tuta as the email address, most people would think it's odd and maybe even fake. In an industry where reputation and name recognition is important, especially in legal, Tuta would sound suspicious. I know I would feel the same if I weren't familiar with Tuta and the lawyers uses Tuta. I know there is Proton, which has a more marketable name, but the CEO is a fascist-loving Trumper so it's not any better for privacy in the future.

[-] nqua@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago

the point is that people who don't care go to lawyers to tell them how to move forward with appropriate caution. and privacy with a lawyers actual communication should be included. remember how lawyers (in movies tbh) often say 'let me talk, dont say anything at all', thats "maybe" because saying anything could reveal something the other party could use to win. if that doesnt include emails to be private, then why not directly use facebook or 4chan instead to tell the ither party how to win against your client? *lol

so if your lawyer doesnt take specific caution into account by himself what he would be supposed to tell you to do anyway, that lawyer is imo at best a risky bet.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

I don't disagree. Although like I said, most people don't really care about privacy. It's a lot of hassle for them. Privacy is a nebulous idea that is not given much thought. If it's out of sight, then it's out of mind, until they see the objective consequences. I've lost count how many organisations I have heard to have been hacked, because the management didn't pay enough attention to cybersecurity. Hell, most people already forgot that Musk and DOGE stole data from government files. But even then, it didn't get enough uproar as much as other issues and brazen corruption.

[-] stormeuh@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

I'd expect even small scale legal firms to have their own domain name with email these days, but even then that doesn't guarantee anything. If you have a subscription to either MS or Google's business suite, you can get custom domain email for basically the cost of registering the domain name.

The only way I see your data not touching any US cloud provider is with a tech-savvy and privacy-conscious lawyer, and I suspect those are rare. Large firms may also still have their own infrastructure, but those are probably expensive as hell.

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