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Took your time huh Bernard?

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[-] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago

Saying 65k is genocide denial, it’s 10x that at least. Not to mention the million displaced people

[-] [email protected] 88 points 2 days ago
[-] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago

I was gonna say it’s like ten times that.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago

65K is the number the UN just "officially" declared a few days ago. But yes, it probably is an order of magnitude more than that

[-] [email protected] 68 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Mike Gravel was calling it a genocide way back.

2019 calling it a genocide: https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20190521-potential-us-presidential-candidate-accuses-racist-israel-of-committing-genocide/

References 1948 ethnic cleansing in 2011: https://www.adn.com/voices/article/israel-harms-palestinians-also-itself/2011/05/16

He regularly talked about how shitty a two state solution would be too. So maybe Bernie is the first living senator, but certainly not the first to call it a genocide.

Mike Gravel was as close to being an anti-imperialist as any US politician can be and in the good timeline he was the last US president

[-] [email protected] 48 points 2 days ago

Yeah I don't like how the narrative is that the genocide started after oct 7, this is what gives credence to this false notion that "hamas started it." the genocide has been going on for a long time, it was the only way they could pull it off but it was always the goal.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Colonialism demands history begin past the point of colonization precisely because, under those narrative conditions, the colonist’s every action is necessarily one of self-defense. The story begins not when the wagons arrive, but only after they are circled. In this telling, fear is the exclusive property of only one people, and the notion that the occupied might fear the doing of their occupier is as fantastical as the notion that barbarians might be afraid of the gate. Any population on whom this asymmetry is imposed will always be the instigators, the cause of what is and, simultaneously, the justification for what will be. The savage outside does, the civilized center must respond. How does one finish the sentence: 'It is unfortunate that tens of thousands of children are dead, but …' Ignore for a moment that the number is an approximation. Ignore the many more children mutilated, orphaned, left to scream under the rubble. Ignore the construction of the sentence itself, its dark similarities to the language of every abuser—You made me do this. Ignore all of this and think about how you would finish this sentence that has now been uttered in one “tence that has now been uttered in one form or another by so many otherwise deeply empathetic Western liberals. How to finish it and still be able to sleep at night. Surely, many people have, and their answers might relate to terrorists or revenge or an all-encompassing right to self-defense. But trimmed to its most basic language, every proposed conclusion to that sentence is some variant of the same basic thesis: They would have killed more of ours. What does unlimited fear cost? What will sate it?

-Omar Al Akkad. One Day Everyone Will Always Have Been Against This

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

One Day Everyone Will Always Have Been Against This

Great quote and great reminder that I finally need to pick this book up

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Not an important distinction, but Mike Gravel was a former senator by then, so Bernie is the first serving senator to call it a genocide, which is what the subheader is referring to.

[-] [email protected] 69 points 2 days ago

I take credit for this because I've been responding to every single thing he posts on Facebook with "when are you going to call it a genocide, old man" for months

[-] [email protected] 45 points 2 days ago

Thank you for your service

[-] [email protected] 51 points 2 days ago

good job bernie. only 2 years later than leftists, and 6 months later than out of touch liberals

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And a few weeks after fucking MTG for Christ's sake

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

2 years later? people been calling this a genocide for decades lol

[-] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago

more like 680,000 dead Palestinians, and that's just since Al-Aqsa Flood

[-] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago

Today, everyone was always against this

[-] [email protected] 45 points 2 days ago

They are literally destroying the last remaining city right now, but sure thanks Bernard. Thanks for showing up for support so early on. Really appreciate it.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

"First US senator" to say that is crazy in September 2025. Death to amerikkka

[-] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago

check the photo that was used by the Times of Israel

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Reminds me of this guy, Antoni Macierewicz, one of the worst cranks in Polish politics and since it's Poland the bar for that achievement is incredibly high

[-] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago

Opportunist scum.

[-] Hell_nah_brother 13 points 1 day ago

Bernie is also being paid by israeli lobbyists. He actually lived in israel and I think he owns some land there too.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"Now that it is going to potentially win me brownie points, I now support the popular position and am now against the situation I strongly supported and helped create up till now. Incidentally, has anyone seen my spine?"

[-] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago

About 75 years late there bud

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

You missed a 0, its more than 10 times that many

[-] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

I sort of see why it took so long? I think he was waiting until the UN had put out an official position, trying to put this announcement on a stable a foundation as possible.

Was that the right move? Overly cautious? I don't know.

[-] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago

No, it was because that actress said free palestine a day or two ago at the emmies or whatever and nobody cared. Maybe the bourgeoisie now is just like…let them say what they want, it’s not like they’re going to do anything about it.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Cause his loyalty is to raytheon, and pisrael recently “decided” to switch to domestic production, gotta protect homegrown murder-accessories

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

isn't it like 200k+?

fuck i want to die typing that

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Most recent estimate is 680k

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

Atleast 65,000*

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

The first senator? I guess he sort of is the best of an extremely bad bunch.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

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