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Judge dismisses two terrorism charges against Luigi Mangione (hexbear.net)
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In addition to second-degree murder, Mangione will be tried in state court on two counts of criminal possession of a weapon in the second degree, four counts of criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree, one count of criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree and one count of criminal possession of a forged instrument in the second degree.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/16/us/luigi-mangione-ny-court-hearing

https://abcnews.go.com/US/luigi-mangione-returns-court-1st-time-5-months/story?id=125617908

https://www.commondreams.org/news/luigi-mangione-terrorism-charges

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[-] save_vs_death@hexbear.net 111 points 5 months ago

of course they'll just get him for regular murder charges, but how embarrassing they tried to get him on terrorism, lmao

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 92 points 5 months ago

Has this guy ever had a bad picture taken of him?

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 60 points 5 months ago

He's a dreamboat

[-] 9to5@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

Awoooooga. May I add Hummina Hummina Bazooing.

[-] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 43 points 5 months ago

I know dudes who lookmaxx like it's a full time job- exhaustive daily grooming/exercise routines using the most expensive products they can afford, and here comes Luigi rolling out of a prison bed just effortlessly mogging them.

[-] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

There was an article saying before he's such a hero to the other prisoners, they've been doing his makeover, tidying up his haircut, eyebrows etc before he goes to court. Actually quite wholesome.

[-] Des@hexbear.net 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

not being a pedant here but they aren't prisoners. it's jail. most are awaiting trial or doing short time (under a year).

being a full blown folk hero likely has him protected by dozens of people (there's already a surprising amount of solidarity at the level of the local jail, it deteriorates as you move into DOC (prison))

it helps that supposedly he is kind and generous and shares his commissary. it's amazing what some ramen will do to build loyalty

i bet even the guards, who at rikers are known to be brutal, sadistic, and murderous, are probably split on their opinion of him and that makes him untouchable by them.

he seems like he's keeping his mouth shut. i'm sure at least one informant has been offered something by the NYPD to get him to talk but i bet for every 1 there are 3 jailhouse lawyer types that protect him from even those angles of attack

[-] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Thank you I appreciate the insight into the American carceral system.

I would in lightest terms put forward it is pedantry, prisoner is a word used internationally, has informal uses and predates the existence of the US as a nation state.

He's a political prisoner, and everyone unjustly bound by the US carceral state is a prisoner, be they in a physical jail, prison, detention camp, involuntary hold, on bail, parole etc.

[-] Des@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago

yeah i think i was just using that as a chance to bring up some personal experience. and I agree, there are a surprisingly large amount of political prisoners in the system these days thanks to the expansion of the criminal code.

the libertarians used to (i guess the principled ones still) have a saying that the average American commits up to 3 felonies a day and doesn't even realize it because they are so banal.

[-] communism@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago

Idk, at least here "prisoner" refers to pre-trial/unconvicted prisoners too. I've only been to pre trial/sentence prisons (never been convicted, prisons were mixed but leaned heavily pre trial/pre sentence) and everyone there called themselves prisoners.

[-] Des@hexbear.net 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

yeah that's true. my immediate circle were all punk anarchists (and homeless lefties, a few russian guys) so we definitely did. and were hyper aware of how easily it could all be turned into an elimination camp

[-] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 5 months ago

Unrivaled face card

[-] GaryLeChat@lemmygrad.ml 91 points 5 months ago

Why did they put this innocent guy up there on the stand, it makes no sense.

[-] jack@hexbear.net 76 points 5 months ago

Dropped it because it was 100% going to spoil the entire jury trial and get him off. Not sure this is going to be enough for a jury to get him, but it'll help the prosecutor's case at least.

[-] communism@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago

Yeah, some comrades of mine charged with terrorism (different jurisdiction but works similarly) experienced the same thing, the threshold for terrorism in most places is extremely high so anyone charging anyone with terrorism for non terrorism is really shooting themselves in the foot, especially since it's normally done against people who are already politically sympathetic in terms of how the jury is likely to see them.

[-] triplenadir@lemmygrad.ml 59 points 5 months ago

"second degree" murder is what's happening to me right now as I die laughing. How could you get more premeditated than this?

Fingers crossed that a jury still acquits despite this fuckery.

[-] SpanishSpaceAgency@hexbear.net 39 points 5 months ago

Apparently FIrst Degree Murder in New York only applies when killing cops, public servants, judges and so on, killing while serving a life sentence, killing as a terrorist act, and in a few other edge cases. Premediatet murder is all "just" second degree murder in NY

[-] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 33 points 5 months ago

So even if he did it, he's technically not guilty of "second degree" murder?

[-] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago

Unless he accidentally or impulsively stalked and killed the CEO on a spur of the moment, lol

[-] DogThatWentGorp@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

It'd be really funny if the defense somehow uses the false pre-meditation evidence to get the jury to not-guilty the 2nd degree murder charges.

Not sure how that would even work if they did but damn.

[-] Chana@hexbear.net 48 points 5 months ago

One gun in a backpack? That's 300 crimes, sorry bro.

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 35 points 5 months ago

remember those "not guilty" OJ shirts. we need one in the same format for this dude lol.

[-] communism@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago

Feel like the lack of reporting around his court proceedings is because they know people will show up to his trial in support of him if they remind the public when and where it's happening.

[-] ikilledtheradiostar@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago

“The defendant’s targeted killing of one individual – although abhorrent and despicable – is not ‘comparable,’” Carro wrote on Mangione.

what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty

[-] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago

Keeping my fingers crossed for some good old fashioned jury nullification.

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