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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (5 children)

American companies are whack. Any humanitarian aid going to Israel is grotesque.

I've learned that Comcast is committing $2 million to aid humanitarian efforts unfolding in Israel and the Middle East.

"We are horrified & deeply saddened by the brutal attack on Israel," Comcast CEO Brian Roberts & president Mike Cavanagh wrote to employees earlier this week.

Nitter

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The Palestinian health ministry, which is run by Hamas, says 1,900 Palestinians have been killed and 7,696 wounded in Israeli airstrikes on Gaza since this latest conflict began last weekend.

The ministry says the toll includes 370 women and 614 children.

Israel has always maintained it does not intentionally target civilians, and has released footage of what it says are anti-tank missiles being fired from the densely populated Gaza Strip.

40 beheaded babies is supposed to legitimise this

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Israel Defense Forces on Twitter/X:

"The first plane carrying American ammunition landed in Israel: — A plane carrying advanced ammunition landed at night at the Nevatim Airbase - 31° 12′ 30.05″ N, 35° 0′ 44.28″ E

The ammunition is designed to allow significant blows and preparation for additional scenarios

We are grateful for the American backing and assistance to the IDF in particular, and to the State of Israel in general, during this challenging period.

Our common enemies know that the cooperation between the armies is stronger than ever, and is a key part of ensuring regional security and stability"

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (4 children)

We should put Cuba in charge of Chinese foreign policy

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (5 children)

AFP, quoting the Chinese Foreign Minister: Israeli practices in Gaza after the Hamas attack exceed the acceptable limits of self-defense

Yeah no shit.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

This “40 beheaded babies” lie is really sick and twisted.

And now we have Biden saying

I never thought that I would see and have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children

even though he saw no such pictures. He just gave so much “credibility” to this horrid disgusting lie.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The US has received intelligence that Iranian leaders were surprised by the Hamas attack on Israel, casting doubt on rumors of Iranian involvement.

This was reported by the New York Times, citing officials.

According to intelligence reports, key Iranian officials were unaware of the impending attack.

The United States, Israel and key regional allies found no evidence that Iran directly helped plan the attack, according to U.S. officials and another Middle East official.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Human Rights Watch: "The statements of the Israeli Defense Minister are disgusting, and depriving residents of occupied territories of food and electricity is collective punishment."

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (7 children)
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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (5 children)

lol, I'm watching MR and not an hour after they covered Israel's atrocities and how the US is complicit in aiding them, Emma starts talking about how she's going to vote for Biden even though she lives in NYC - to set an example for people who live in swing states

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago

Isn't Saturday Shabbat? As in, the day you're not supposed to work or study? That's the day that Hamas was supposedly planning to attack schoolchildren on?

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The worst thing about Israeli propaganda is that they're just straight up rebranding Israeli crimes as Palestinian ones.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Putin:

"I don't understand why the U.S. is dragging aircraft carrier groups into the Mediterranean Sea. I don't really understand the point. Are they going to bomb Lebanon or what? Or have they decided to try to scare someone? There are people there who are no longer afraid of anything. This is not the way to solve the problem. Compromise solutions need to be looked for. Of course, such actions are inflaming the situation."

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

I don't doubt there are Arab fascists out there, but isn't it strange that 99% of what we see reported by the western media as well as Palestinian media, Nazi symbols aren't used as a "psyop" tactic against Israel? Strange that Ukraine keeps using it and westerners keep defending them as if they have no choice. It's almost as if waving around a Nazi flag in battle is a deliberate announcement that you're a fascist.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Just put this ad up on Israel's Craigslist, ready to do my part for the kids.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I can't wait for the next one to five years until the hit, billion dollar grossing blockbuster film about these events comes out, Thoroughly dripping with obvious fascist themes and imagery, yet widely acclaimed by run of the mill Hamilton type liberals.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

“I remember going through 9/11 and waking up the next day, the next week, and everything had changed,” he said. “It’s the same thing again. But worse because we’re such a small country.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/10/israel-hamas-carnage-00120858

The 9/11 comparisons are so fucking cynical. Just a play on the deep-seated Islamophobia inside the heart of every American.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (12 children)

is gone for 10 hours

aight hows it going

856 new comments

what the fuck

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (3 children)

A Roaring Flood—By Any Means Necessary:
One week has passed since the start of Al-Aqsa Flood. The entity crumbles under the weight of its own contradictions as our people stand tall.

In a desperate move to collect its shattered pieces dispersed by the flood, the IOF threatened a ground invasion. The resistance has made it clear: they are ready and waiting. From the first day, a ground invasion was described as "the best possible option" by resistance leaders.

The resistance is not foolish; it is confident and fully aware that even in the worst-case scenario, they have the upper hand. This meticulously planned operation is a testament to that. Further:

While the IOF threatened to flatten the northern Strip, in a criminal attempt at a second Nakba, Gaza's residents have adhered to the land, refusing to succumb to the enemy's psychological warfare with full faith in the resistance. Abu Obeida reassured: "No displacement, except to our occupied lands." Settlers, meanwhile, run between shelters and airports.

The Axis of Resistance led by Palestine is coordinating next steps. From Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, all the way to Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Bahrain: all await the signal, masses promising to enter. The Axis sends messages to the entity of unity and preparedness, whether by rockets from Lebanon and Syria, or the mass gatherings in support of Al-Aqsa. Leading the way to liberation, Gaza, crown of the nation, supported by all its peoples, is not alone. Besieged Gaza, besieges the siege.

Despite the countless massacres, the people in Gaza refuse to back down from resistance. The pain might be great, but the will to fight is greater. The coming hours are decisive.

Our duty now is to follow the resistance with patience. It is a war for survival. Stand behind the resistance, in its people, fighters: have their back and support them. Amplify their voices, their bullets and rockets. Believe in the reality of the dream. Believe that you are capable.

As our heroes have told us before, it is a spider's web, a paper tiger, an illusion of dust. No matter how invincible our enemy claims to be, our eyes see beyond the fractured illusion, beyond the dust.

What is certain is that we have already won. What is certain is that they have lost since the first day they set foot on our lands. The entity's prestige has shattered, has fallen, and it commits war crimes—murdering Gazans and even its own settlers—under US cover as the righteous resistance marches forth honorably.

As our resistance is confident in victory, we too are confident.

What is certain is that they cannot break us. For as long as there's breath in our lungs, a pulse in our hearts, rocks in the hands of our children defying tanks, rockets defying a crumbling and prideful entity deceived by its own arrogance—liberation is closer with every passing second. A martyr is carried on the shoulders of the sons of his land and lulled to sleep by its ululating mothers.

Liberation, undoubtedly, liberation nears.

these statements are beautifully written goddamn.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago

feast We have the best mega, folks. It's a beautiful mega. Thay say we'll hit 4k by friday. Do I believe it, possibly. Will it, i hope it does.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If I were being accused of genocide and collective punishment I simply would not announce im cutting off the internet to all of Palestine

[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Ken Klippenstein long tweet. What jumped out at me was the last sentence that I put in bold.

Egypt intelligence official says Israel ignored repeated warnings of 'something big' — Times of Israel

Mounting questions over Israel's massive intelligence failure to anticipate and prepare for a surprise Hamas assault were compounded Monday when an Egyptian intelligence official said that Jerusalem had ignored repeated warnings that the Gaza-based terror group was planning "something big" — which included an apparent direct notice from Cairo's intelligence minister to the prime minister.

The Egyptian official said Egypt, which often serves as a mediator between Israel and Hamas, had spoken repeatedly with the Israelis about "something big," without elaborating.

He said Israeli officials were focused on the West Bank and played down the threat from Gaza. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's government is made up of supporters of West Bank settlers who have demanded a security crackdown there in the face of a rising tide of violence over the last 18 months.

"We have warned them an explosion of the situation is coming, and very soon, and it would be big. But they underestimated such warnings," the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to discuss the content of sensitive intelligence discussions with the media, told The Associated Press.

In one of the said warnings, Egypt's Intelligence Minister General Abbas Kamel personally called Netanyahu only 10 days before the massive attack that Gazans were likely to do "something unusual, a terrible operation," according to the Ynet news site.

Unnamed Egyptian officials told the site they were shocked by Netanyahu's indifference to the news and said the premier told the minister the military was "submerged" in troubles in the West Bank.

Nitter

Egypt intelligence official says Israel ignored repeated warnings of "something big" | The Times of Israel

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Several unconfirmed reports and videos of clashes with infiltrated marine fighters in Ashdod, the sixth largest city in Israel and twice as far as Asqalan from Gaza

Edit: lmao, now there are unconfirmed reports that the IDF and local police are actually the ones shooting at each other in Ashdod, incredible

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago (4 children)

i'm starting to think that the servers can take a 1000+ post megathread

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

We blew our load because Israeli media stared freaking out and now they’re saying there’s nothing lmfaoo

[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

lol

Schools and universities across the Bay Area said they were bolstering security measures — and in some cases canceling classes — amid so-far unsubstantiated threats of pro-Hamas violence.

Reminds me of this Onion from 2001

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago (24 children)

The further this escalates the more you're gonna see a lot of crazy shit from american christians. As someone who grew up in a very christian family I remember hearing a lot about end times prophecy and as a kid I got into the left behind series and I myself was convinced the rapture was gonna happen. What's happening now pushes a lot of these peoples buttons the fundies are already going ape shit over this convinced it means jesus is coming because a conflict involving Israel is supposedly when the tribulation begins.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

For years, elite colleges—and other influential institutions—have lent their prestige to once-radical concepts like decolonization, seeming to imagine that they could be kept separate from the gruesome histories out of which they emerged. Fanon, the intellectual godfather of “decolonial” thought, wasn’t so naïve. As the world becomes more dangerous again, the luxury of metaphorical radicalism may prove too costly to sustain.

"The violence which governed the ordering of the colonial world ... this same violence will be vindicated and appropriated when, taking history into their own hands, the colonized swarm into the forbidden cities..."

  • Frantz Fanon, The Wretched of the Earth.

"Middle class" radicals meet real world politics with actual consequences on the the ground = the complete collapse of their radicalism. Scratch a liberal and all that.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have to object to this item in the sidebar:

Using April 1st as an excuse to post fake headlines, like the death of Kissinger while he is still unfortunately alive, will result in the poster being thrown in the gamer gulag and be sentenced to play and beat trashy mobile games like 'Raid: Shadow Legends' in order to be rehabilitated back into general society.

Raid is an Israeli game and should not be played by anyone

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

https://streamable.com/31plao

⚡️🇵🇸 the Israeli settler that Hamas resistance members released with her 2 kids saying she did not get harmed by them and saying that they took her to the borders and one of them gave her a sign with his hands in meaning that she and her kids can go and that’s when she understood that they were released,and then the resistances members walked back to Gaza,she also said that they gave her clothes to cover herself,then she kept walking her way on the borders and that’s when she saw another group of resistance members,she got scared and tried to hide but they saw her and her 2 kids and she was surprised that they kept walking their way to Gaza and didn’t do anything to her and then she kept walking until she arrived occupied cities.

Another video proves Israeli propaganda about the resistance hurting, killing ,r*pes women and children wrong .

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Palestinian Health Ministry states Israeli airstrikes targeted three convoys transporting evacuees in southern Gaza today, resulting in at least 70 fatalities.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hezbollah now says it has attacked the Israeli Pranit and Avivim barracks

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

CW: Censored killing

PLFP (Marxist Leninist) released some censored footage of their participation in attacks.

Weapons seen: AK-103-2 (from Libya) and Chinese Type 56-1 rifle.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Rare footage showing the inside of the Palestinian tunnel systems housing missiles.

https://streamable.com/8g1svd

Now scale it up and consider the thousands upon thousands of rockets that have been fired.

Clearing these tunnels is going to be impossible.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago (2 children)

6k comments unlimited genocide on the first world

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