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[–] 174 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Oh gee! I wonder why is this happening?!

I guess we'll never know!

Anyway, let's release another copy-paste game at 90€/$ with 50€/$ in dlcs and another collector edition with some plastic toy for 300!

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    A collectors edition that doesn’t include the game either.

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    [–] 93 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Less money to buy games, cost of games go up, quality still crap, riddled with micro transactions. Why buy a game when it comes out when you can wait to buy it on a sale while you play your backlog and by the time you buy the game it will be the best version because they had time to fix it up, almost never to the degree it should be but still the best it's going to get

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    [–] 69 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Not just Gen Z lol. People don't have money, games are a luxury, luxuries are the first to go when you need to stretch your cash. Not that complicated.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago

    I have money for games...but NONE of it is going to any company that makes me scream AAAAA..or when they charge 40+ for a game. screw em.

    even their 100$ trash at 95% off..hell no. that's even worse cause you know the game is extra shit.

    all my money goes directly to Indy devs. games are actually fun, made with passion and they don't try to screw me every chance they get. I stopped with big title garbage like 6-7 years ago. never going back.

    this mentality even applies to all my shopping. I don't buy crap anymore and I wish more people would do the same.

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    [–] 67 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Modern games fucking suck. Start making good shit if you want people to buy them.

    Also fuck the useless malware anticheats. Do it server side if you want to be even mildly effective or fuck off.

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    [–] 42 points 1 year ago
    1. Do they have money? I don't have money.

    2. Modern games from major devs fucking suck.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    From my perspective as a millennial, people are running out of time and energy too.

    Like, I know a couple, both working, no kids, avid and techy gamers who know to play stuff like KCDII, yet they mostly plop down for YouTube at the end of the day. A VG or longer form TV is too draining, and too long.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    For me, I didn’t have the mental energy. At a previous job, I was so mentally strained working 8 hours nonstop on highly mentally taxing tasks that even if I wanted to play a game, it felt like a chore rather than something I can enjoy or wind down to. Even if I had the time, since I do other stuff outside of work.

    The strange thing is, when I work I have the money but not the time nor energy to justify buying games to sink time into. When I don’t work I have the time and energy but not the money to justify paying $80-$100 on a game I probably won’t play as much as I think otherwise.

    I’ve in recent years looking more into reviews and such to weigh in whether or not I want to buy the game in the first place. Compare that to years prior when I could look at a trailer or short snippet and get a good idea of what the game has to offer. Now I’m more weary of grindy game mechanics and predatory micro transactions.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    They're spending their time scrolling. The GenZ equivalent of television. GenZ is also getting older. The median age is over college graduate age. They're simply working more or doing other things besides video games. Not everyone is a Paradox gamer. I'm sure the GenZ Paradox gamers, PC gamers, and FPS/sports enthusiasts are all still buying the same games. But the people growing out of it might buy 1-2 per year and play ~10 hrs per month. The "youngest GenZ" is about 13 years old now.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Setting aside how unusual it is for overall spend to decrease in this age cohort (I encourage people to read the WSJ report linked in this article), this is the only comment here that hits on the most newsworthy part of this. Video games have been recession-resistant for decades, but now we're seeing it as a leading category for cutbacks. Even though gaming is a low-cost hobby, zoomers have found alternatives, and that surely includes F2P games.

    While trends haven't been great for a while now, this is the most alarming data I've seen yet for the traditional gaming market. I feel like I'm gonna blink and there's going to be a generational divide like there is with baseball.

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    [+] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
    [–] 27 points 1 year ago

    I also didn't really buy many games until I had proper salary. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Some of gen-Z are still pretty young and they are just poor students...

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Judging by the comments, reading the article seems to be a lost art. Here's the image for y'all:

    It's very specifically about 18-24 year olds, compared to last year, with video games seeing the steepest decrease.

    You can stop complaining about games being soulless, unless you want to claim that wasn't a problem last year. Well, you can, but it's unrelated then. Compared to last year, this age group has felt the need to cut back at everything more so than anyone else.

    Here's the thread mentioned in the article. Suspected reason is restarting of student loan payments and difficult job market.

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    [–] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    They don’t come out with original work that gets people interested and/or they enshittify the franchise. If GreatGame was good, we’re on GreatGame VI with microtransactions, paid skins, fortnite play, no immersive single player campaign, and ads with no real change to anything else.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Like others said, it's not just Gen-Z.

    Funny enough, the main reason I'm spending far less is not the shitty economy, but rather the gaming industry's push to kill physical copies.

    I used to buy a lot of physical games at full price because they would be much harder to find later on, but if I'm forced to go with a digital copy this is no longer an issue, so I just let them sit on my wishlist until they're massively discounted.

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    [–] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    there are also almost no new games worth even looking at anymore. There are some, but they are quite rare

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    [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    Could it be that the economy fucking sucks?

    Nope, clearly it's our fault for not just going out and buying stuff.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Why buy a new game when you have no money and your backlog will take years to go through?

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Y'all, this market is beyond saturated. And the AI gaming people are flOOOoding the space with more and more stuff.

    In terms of a fun way to spend an hour or two, or a few go-to games, there's unlimited options, many free or free enough. Meanwhile, everyone churning out titles expects full attention and wishlist and dropping $50 on them for simply existing.

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    [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Well, gee, I wonder why. Not like their money isn't going more for necessities after all

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    As a millennial, the games today are mostly shit. I’m currently playing Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 and it’s amazing. I had a blast with DK Bananza as well. Deltarune was nice too. But before that? AstroBot. And before that? I don’t know. Usually I play a demo of a game, if that’s not available I pirate it and play for half an hour or so. If I like it, I buy it. If I don’t like it, I won’t buy it and won’t play any further. And on top of that, a lot of games released today are just remakes of games that themselves released on PS3/Xbox360/PC. I mean "The Last of us remastered"??? That game was released on PS4, so I can just pop it in my PS5 and play it. But now the devs want me to pay $70 to have it a tiny bit better looking?

    "Lost Soul Aside" will release later this month. I remember years ago when I first heard of this game, made by a single person (who now got a team of developers from Sony). And I will definitely get that. No demo required.

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    [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    The whole world is cutting back on everything everywhere as no one wants to be left short if this global economic craziness gets even more out of hand.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    and indie games are cheaper and better

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    [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Did industry try to raise prices even more? Maybe higher prices is what's missing for gaming industry to blossom /s

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I think SOME of it has to do with AAA being dogshit, but I think a lot of it is actually that they just play roblox. I have been told "why would I buy peak when roblox has this mountain climbing game for free?"

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    You're thinking of Gen Alpha. GenZ was born starting '97, most of us are closer to 30 than 13, they don't play Roblox or know what that is. All they know is eat hot chip and twerk and cry for a world that never was yet feels was taken from us while watching old vine compilations and being able to recite them word for word with impressive if slightly concerning accuracy.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    My son stopped playing some of the latest stuff because of the crazy levels of anti cheating intrusionware. Better mental health not playing competitive multiplayer too.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, I remember being in my 20s too. Too bad they are going through the same shit we did. are we getting another "this is a trauma response" generation?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Maybe on bad triple A games

    Steam's indie games tho, gen Z are spending a shit ton there

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Games were once created by gamers, who had a clear vision. It since became a soulless business and people notice. I think twice before opening my wallet now. I don't pre-order, don't spend more on digital gimmick editions and wait for reviews, first. Usually I can wait for sales. The industry's problems are homemade. But once in a while I find rare gems like Forgive me Father. And I'm happy with that.

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    [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Everyone is.

    I don't buy new releases anymore.

    Why?

    Cause the prices are getting stupid. Cause its all digital downloads with no physical product. Cause my "ownership" can be revoked at any time by the platforms whims or the platforms shutdown.

    What happened to digital downloads being cheaper, anyway? Thats the promise we were sold 10+ years ago. That by sacrificing physical products, Publishers/Devs wouldnt have to pay for printing, manufacturing, shipping, storage, etc, so they'd be able to sell AAA new releases for 30 dollars, and Pub/Dev would still make more money.

    And now we're supposed to be paying 60, 70, 80 dollars or more, for these digital download games.. that we don't even own? And because they have no product on the shelves, prices never come down either. Sure, you might find a sale like on steam or something.. but those sales pale in comparison to what they were 5, 10 years ago

    Fuck that. Amazing how the only promise fulfilled on moving to digital download was that pubs/devs would get more money.. and they get that by skyrocketing the costs, not because of the sacrifices we made to give up boxes, disks, manuals, and ownership

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    [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Gen X, can't actually remember the last time I bought a game.

    Suikoden 1 & 2 on PS5? I think that was it.

    I used to buy games all the time, but I won't pay for a digital release I don't own. Avowed? Digital only. Looked for Expedition 33, couldn't find it on physical.

    I'm not leaving gaming, gaming is leaving me.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    I do buy games from time to time, but 2 of my most played games on Steam are just free games. OpenTTD and vivid/stasis.

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