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[–] [email protected] 91 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Luddites were good actually

[–] [email protected] 52 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, but they teach us he was bad without explaining why he did what he did aside from a vague "He hated machines"

[–] [email protected] 49 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I was led to believe the luddites were like the Amish and they had like, a religious opposition to technology.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 11 months ago

Working as intended. capitalist-laugh

[–] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, it was a targetted movement where they believed the technological advances were replacing good jobs with little benefit to the community. I don't know the details but I believe they accepted new technologies when it was displacing dangerous labour. I imagine it's not dissimilar to discussions we're having right now about more or less the same issues!

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Apparently they just didn’t want their labor replaced with machines so they’d be out of the job, but the propaganda (“tHeY jUsT oPpOsE pRoGrEsS”) is the story that survived within the imperial core.

So there is actually a strong analogue here with actors and writers not wanting to be replaced with LLM chatbot or image-generative AIs. Adam actually is a Luddite, in a sense, and it seems weird to me that some cringelib is clamoring for something that will replace them as well, they just don’t know it yet.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

spray-bottle luddites are reactionary according to marx

but what is happening here with the unions is seizing AI tech for the benefit of workers, not the corporations. the contract explicitly allows writers to use it as they wish, but cannot be pressured by corporations to use it to meet quotas. it is explicitly not luddite, and is in fact what marx suggests to do with emerging technologies. i fully expect writers to use ai to make their jobs easier going forward and to have something to bounce ideas on without having their jobs endangered.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

YOU DID NOT HAVE A REAL JOB ANYWAY! THE BAZINGA TECH IS LIBERATING NO MATTER WHO OWNS AND COMMANDS IT AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT YOU'RE A LUUUUUUUUUHDIIIIIIITE maybe-later-honey

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 79 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Ukrainian flag?

Ukrainian flag

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Also eu-cool

Imagine my surprise lol

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago

Universal symbol for "you're about to hear a shit take."

[–] [email protected] 76 points 11 months ago (2 children)

There's a bunch of people like that on Reddit who are convinced AI is taking over every industry and people trying to push back against AI techbros taking advantage are luddites afraid of change. Pretty sure those office workers will be the first to lose their jobs.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They are luddites in the sense that the Luddites were cool as fuck

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I kept using the term luddite for so long until I read about the actual luddites; it's crazy how relatable they are and yet they've been smeared so thoroughly.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

See also: capitalists' definition of "anarchist"

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Hexbear had a feverish outbreak of the same takes for a little while when LLMs got successfully marketed as "AI" and it seemed like magic godlike holographic waifus were just around the corner.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

That was kinda fun. I know just enough computer science to ask the questions that really annoy "AI" ~~accolades~~.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago

:hasan-smash: damn it

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (12 children)
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[–] [email protected] 65 points 11 months ago (9 children)

How's that post go again

If I have to get exposed to the political opinions of a 14 year old again, I'm going to scream?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

I remember when we first set up shop here and I realized there were actual teenagers amogus. I threw up in my mouth a little with the idea of talking to someone half my age without realizing it.

Good news is it's 3 years later and they've all likely grown into full people at this point.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Good news is it's 3 years later and

they're not mathematically half my age anymore

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 11 months ago

Critical support for Adam's stupid fucking face, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 11 months ago (4 children)

That is a literal child. Like, it says 16 in their bio.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Children should not be allowed to use the internet.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Synthesis: Children should be able to use a little bit of internet, as a treat.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If you're old enough to drive a tractor and ride a moped on public roads, you're old enough to get mildly dunked on by an obscure internet forum you'll never even hear of.

Sorry, I don't make the rules.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago

If you publish a public take on unions, you should be praised or bullied as an adult

[–] [email protected] 54 points 11 months ago (2 children)

the blue checks are all so mad because they would die to simply be hooked up to an AI powered slop hose that gives them a batman movie every day no matter its quality

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

EDIT: Sorry I meant Batgirl.

But does it give you the cancelled Catwoman?

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 11 months ago

literally not luddite, the union contract permits writers to use AIs when it benefits themselves

[–] [email protected] 45 points 11 months ago (7 children)

They're 16 years old. It's perfectly natural to be a complete idiot when you're a child. I was a bog-standard libertarian at their age, there's still plenty of time to turn around.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago

Idk when I was 16 I was the normal sort of stupid 16 yos are, not this hilterlite trash

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

Yes but also it's in black and white in the Constitution:

"The right to consume treats shall not be infringed."

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Love calling someone a Luddite while he made a video with a phone to post it on social media, very Luddite indeed

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ludd is infact, the only king I recognise o7

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I really don't know how liberals can square the circle with their whole "we are the furthest left in this country and you need to vote for us to stop fascism" bullshit.

What even is fascism to them? They don't seem to care about anything other than when Trump did mean tweets.

Biden has given more money to the police after BLM, Biden has drilled more oil, he started a new war, ended COVID help, is still detaining and separating families at the border, union busting...

The list is long

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago

Chibified bazinga quasi-anime avatars are often more likely to be chud related than actual anime avatars. The number of nationalistic imperial flags is also stacking the deck for chuddery. sus-soviet

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

the luddites were worried that industrialisation would lower standards of living for the english lower classes. The industrial revolution then did that

the luddites were objectively correct

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