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[-] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

you have hire/fire power over this position but they're independent and don't have to do what you say

statements uttered by the truly deranged.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago

I can't believe Politico - in a matter-of-fact way - put the "Trump could ruin the economy at lightspeed" news under the crypto stuff.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

But the supreme court already said he can't because "The Federal Reserve is a uniquely structured, quasi-private entity that follows in the distinct historical tradition of the First and Second Banks of the United States". They put that within a ruling that said Trump is allowed to fire people from the National Labor Relations Board. marx-joker

[-] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

"President Trump - the Supreme Court recently ruled you are prohibited from that very action."

"So what."

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

"John ~~Marshall~~ Roberts has made his decision, now let him enforce it"

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Plenty of libs on the internet being like "he can't do that!"

Just zero lessons learned across the board

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

NYT - Trump Has Draft of Letter to Fire Fed Chair. He Asked Republicans if He Should Send It.

[On Tuesday night] - the president waved a copy of a draft letter firing Jerome H. Powell at a meeting in the Oval Office with House Republicans.

[-] [email protected] 31 points 6 days ago

he's definitely been saying he will for a while now. the bots and bozos are hooting for it.

if it happens, it's definitely a transfer of power from the Church of Capitalism to it's militarized custodial State.

it's hard to imagine the institutional capitalists want this to happen, for the bank's powers to be pulled farther under the sway of direct electoralism in general, or into the sphere of the trump project in particular.

i would have thought this was all patter for effect, part of the constant ultimatum "art of the deal" to wring concessions and place bets on the volatility, but honestly I am starting to think it's less coherent than even that. like maybe it's just "I am God, do what I want" mercurial madness for its own sake.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago

i would have thought this was all patter for effect, part of the constant ultimatum "art of the deal" to wring concessions and place bets on the volatility, but honestly I am starting to think it's less coherent than even that. like maybe it's just "I am God, do what I want" mercurial madness for its own sake.

Something I came to terms with the last few months is that I can analyze all I want, but really "no, they are actually this dumb" is at least 90% accurate and saves me the effort.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

I don't think there's any broader calculus other than he likes debt financing. It's one of his pet things that likes to talk about. He wanted rate cuts much earlier in his first term but the fed rebuked him until 2019 started looking spicy. Then covid game and gave cover to lower rates. Trump didn't even get to enjoy the cuts for most of his term. He wants them much earlier this time and he's not going to wait.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

it's hard to imagine the institutional capitalists want this to happen,

Why do you assume institutional capitalists don’t want this to happen when we’ve seen contemporary capitalists place short term gains in the form of mergers and general stock fuckery as their only priority?

If institutional capitalists did not want these things to happen, Trump wouldn’t be able to do what he does and pass the abomination that BBB is.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Blow up the system, get a bail out

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

In what though? An increasingly worthless, hyper-inflating currency? Maybe this what the bitcoin strategic reserve is for lol

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Inflation will only continue until the democrats get in and impose extreme austerity measures

[-] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

if institutional capital really wanted this to happen, there wouldn't be any discussion about it at all because the reserve would lower rates as soon as trump signaled a desire to lower them or Powell would have already resigned.

the federal reserve committee IS institutional capital. it was established to make decisions independent of any electoral sentiment at a time when socialism was gaining ground in the US, just years before Debs ran for high office.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

"I am God, do what I want" mercurial madness for its own sake.

I think that's it.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

What would this do exactly? Is this the guy who controls interest rates?

[-] [email protected] 24 points 6 days ago

yeah. the primary motivation for the federal reserve was to moderate interest rates through a central body and prevent bank panics/bank runs.

basically, there is one lever the capitalists decided was OK: interest rate controls. if labor is too strong: raise rates, cause mass layoffs, and expand the reserve army of labor. if the economy is cratering from nobody doing anything: cut interest rates, make borrowing cheaper, and run the risk of speculative bubbles.

trump seems very gung ho about maintaining a permanent bubble economy, so my guess is he would cut interest rates heavily there would be a big surge in VC borrowing, leveraged buyouts, and all manner of crypto schemes. I would also expect the consumer price index to accelerate it's creep upwards, the dollar to become weaker in forex markets, and some narrow increase in exports.

it would run the risk of massive inflation over time, but I don't really believe in "long term" forecasting of the US shitshow anymore. especially if this happens, because it's been the paradigm for over 110 years, so there's no telling how the capitalist class will react to the news that one of them has seized controls from their committee to immediately enrich himself at the longer term expense of their collective class. would expect them to fragment and fight about it.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

the primary motivation for the federal reserve was to moderate interest rates through a central body and prevent bank panics/bank runs

With the (primary) secondary objective of lowering and raising rates to attempt to coincide business cycles with republican and democratic presidential terms. I feel like the fact that they've done this for decades kind gets ignored.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2166647

[-] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago

Technically Powell doesn't unilaterally set the federal funds rate. There is a committee and they have a vote on whether to raise or lower the rates. If he fires Powell and puts in someone who wants to cut rates, the rest of the governors would have to agree. Most people would say this wouldn't happen because the Fed is sort of a sacred technocratic and institutional cow. It shan't be tainted by petty Presidential whims and even if it was, the adults in the room wouldn't go along with it. But then I ask, what if they did?

If the biggest fish don't panic and want to let Trump cook, then "the market" won't crash. I feel like this is how it's been playing out with tariffs. There's some big importer/exporter capitalists out there who will suffer, but all the other big capitalists seem kinda okay with that. And they all share the idea with Trump of power projection. They think we should bully other countries into paying us more and letting us pay less. Even if they lose their shirts in the short term on coffee beans or whatever, if it works, it will pay dividends in the long run. Then the capitalists in other countries, even the ones being tariffed more, are kinda going along with it too, probably more out of thinking this is just a short-term problem. They think that when Trump leaves, everything will go back to normal. It won't.

So if Trump bullies the Fed, that's a major breach of the liberal technocratic firewall. Once again Trump shits on the gentleman's agreement to be a good steward of neoliberalism. That's bad only if the big fish capitalists react as if it's a problem. My bet is that they're kinda curious because it's an opportunity that their kind hasn't had since the 1910s. It's been in place so long that they don't really understand why it's there and the libertarian (abolish the fed) element is stronger than most think. So compromising it might be cool? Let's try it. Rockefeller did okay without a fed, after all.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Dr. Powell, I'm CIA

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