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Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Elon makes Grok developers install intrusive surveillance software on their laptops. They're being told to enable screen captures and URL tracking.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

In conjunction with his comments about making it antiwoke by modifying the input data rather then relying on a system prompt after filling it with everything, it's hard not to view this as part of an attempt to ideologically monitor these tutors to make sure they're not going to select against versions of the model that aren't in the desired range of "closeted Nazi scumbag."

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

So random thought, you now how LW is worried about an seed AI going foom right, how it bootstraps itself into a new AI with better capabilities which bootstraps etc all the way till the singularity.

Why isn't it happening? Gpt-2 was released 2019, 3 2022, 4 2023, so where is 5 and 6? Where is our double event?

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This isn't an original thought, but a better matrix for comparing the ideology (such as it is) of the current USG is not Nazi Germany but pre-war US right wing obsessions - anti-FDR and anti-New Deal.

This appears in weird ways, like this throwaway comment regarding the Niihau incident, where two ethnic Japanese inhabitants of Niihau helped a downed Japanese airman immediately after Pearl Harbor.

Imagine if you will, one of the 9/11 hijackers parachuting from the plane before it crashed, asking a random muslim for help, then having that muslim be willing to immediately get himself into a shootouts, commit arson, kidnappings, and misc mayhem.

Then imagine that it was covered in a media environment where the executive branch had been advocating for war for over a decade, and voices which spoke against it were systematically silenced.

(src)

Dude also credits LessOnline with saving his life due to unidentified <<>> shooting up his 'hood when he was there. Charming.

Edit nah he's a neo-Nazi (or at least very concerned about the fate of German PoWs after WW2):

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/6BBRtduhH3q4kpmAD/against-that-one-rationalist-mashal-about-japanese-fifth?commentId=YMRcfJvcPWbGwRfkJ

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

This is, sadly, pretty unsurprising, as carrying forward the anti-FDR/anti-New Deal movement was a foundational pillar of the libertarianism that Trump co-opted. Heavily promoted by the LewRockwell.com/Mises.org crowd.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Remember Devin, the AI coding bot that turned out to be a complete scam?

Well, looks like Goldman Sachs decided to let it loose on its code base. In YOLO mode too, it seems.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

It would be really funny if Devin caused a financial crash this way

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Total fucking Devin move if you ask me.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

A hackernews muses about vibe coding a chatbot to provide therapy for people in crisis. Soon, an actual health care professional shows up to butcher the offender and defile the corpse. This causes much tut-tutting and consternation among the locals.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44535197

Edit: a shower thought: have any of yall noticed the way that prompt enjoyers describe using Cursor, tab completions, and such are a repackaging of the psychology of loot boxes? In particular, they share the variable-interval reward schedule that serves as the hook in your typical recreational gambling machines.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

I’ve been making casual observation how a number of the adhd people I know to have addiction tendencies tend to get real into prompts, but hadn’t observed the lootbox thing

that’s going into the ponder bucket.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

you should be read up on the gospel of @fasterandworse never shutting up about "Hooked"

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

One of the subjects in the MER study posted that too: https://x.com/QuentinAnthon15/status/1943948796414898370

[-] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

the psychology of loot boxes?

yep! https://awful.systems/post/4568900

the book is "Hooked" and it's Don't Build The Torment Nexus I'm Now Providing You A Detailed Blueprint Of

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Ye gods! Also, great write-up!

Do you reckon that Altman recognized the gacha potential from the get-go? That Big LLM has always been FanDuel for dorks, but on purpose?

[-] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

Musk objects to the "stochastic parrot" labelling of LLMs. Mostly just the stochastic part.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

Wake up babe, new alignment technique just dropped: Reinforcement Learning Elon Feedback

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[-] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago

https://metr.org/blog/2025-07-10-early-2025-ai-experienced-os-dev-study/

When developers are allowed to use AI tools, they take 19% longer to complete issues—a significant slowdown that goes against developer beliefs and expert forecasts. This gap between perception and reality is striking: developers expected AI to speed them up by 24%, and even after experiencing the slowdown, they still believed AI had sped them up by 20%.

womp, hold on let me finish, womp

[-] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

had a quick scan over the blogposts earlier, keen to read the paper

would be nice to see some more studies with more numbers under study, but with the cohort they picked the self-reported vs actual numbers are already quite spicy

[-] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

and n=16 handily beats the usual promptfondler n=1

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Also the attempt to actually measure productivity instead of just saying "they felt like it helped" - of course it did!

[-] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I have become aware that there is a very right wing Catholic podcaster who has a Catholicism AI chatbot app. It's called Truthly.

Your Trusted Catholic AI Conversation Companion Deepen your understanding, explore ideas, and engage in meaningful dialogue—anytime, anywhere.

If someone could call up Pope Leo and get him to excommunicate the guys who invented this, that would be great.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Nah, we just need to make sure they properly baptise whatever servers it's running on.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

really, really thoroughly baptise. not just drops but fistfuls of water. the more water the more holy. the servers will love being really holy!

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Just throw the whole unit into the font, just to be safe. Or better yet, a river!

[-] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/JspxcjkvBmye4cW4v/asking-for-a-friend-ai-research-protocols

Multiple people are quietly wondering if their AI systems might be conscious. What's the standard advice to give them?

Touch grass. Touch all the grass.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

Username called "The Dao of Bayes". Bayes's theorem is when you pull the probabilities out of your posterior.

知者不言,言者不知。 He who knows (the Dao) does not (care to) speak (about it); he who is (ever ready to) speak about it does not know it.

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

LessWrong's descent into right-wing tradwife territory continues

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/tdQuoXsbW6LnxYqHx/annapurna-s-shortform?commentId=ueRbTvnB2DJ5fJcdH

Annapurna (member for 5 years, 946 karma):

Why is there so little discussion about the loss of status of stay at home parenting?

First comment is from user Shankar Sivarajan, member for 6 years, 1227 karma

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/tdQuoXsbW6LnxYqHx/annapurna-s-shortform?commentId=opzGgbqGxHrr8gvxT

Well, you could make it so the only plausible path to career advancement for women beyond, say, receptionist, is the provision of sexual favors. I expect that will lower the status of women in high-level positions sufficiently to elevate stay-at-home motherhood.

[...]

EDIT: From the downvotes, I gather people want magical thinking instead of actual implementable solutions.

Granted, this got a strong disagree from the others and a tut-tut from Habryka, but it's still there as of now and not yeeted into the sun. And rats wonder why people don't want to date them.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

Dorkus malorkus alert:

When my grandmother quit being a nurse to become a stay at home mother, it was seen like a great thing. She gained status over her sisters, who stayed single and in their careers.

Fitting into your societal pigeonhole is not the same as gaining status, ya doofus.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago
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[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It's possible we may be catching sight of the first shy movements towards a pivot to robotics:

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/autonomous-machines/embedded-systems/jetson-orin/nano-super-developer-kit/

https://techcrunch.com/2025/07/09/hugging-face-opens-up-orders-for-its-reachy-mini-desktop-robots/

Both developer kits, because it's always a maybe the clients will figure something out type of business model these days.

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