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[–] 181 points 1 year ago

"He's running so slow...."

1 hour later

"How can he still be running like that?"

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  • [–] 109 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I mean, if animals engage in pretend fights and other forms of play, it seems that they can on some level grasp the idea of practicing or doing something for fun.

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  • [+] 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
    [–] 63 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    I mean, the ability to run long distances without tiring is kind of what makes humans an apex predator. We can out-endurance just about every other creature. Most ancient human hunting techniques involved just wounding an animal, and then literally chasing it until it got too tired to keep going.

    Wolves are very similar, which is what made us such natural hunting companions. The co-evolution of humans and dogs is an extremely interesting rabbit hole, if anyone is looking for one.

    All that to say, the wolf would understand the need to run more than just about any other animal. A bear would work better here. A wolf would just see us running and think 'game recognizes game', just like they already did eons ago :3

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    involved just wounding an animal

    not even wounding. Just persistent tracking and following. Most prey animals can run away quickly, but need lots of rest.

    Humans can just keep going. And going. And going. Until the prey just is too exhausted to run.

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    [+] 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (30 children)
  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Funny enough there is another animal I know that can sweat, have more endurance than humans, and much faster than humans. Horses.

    Imagine you fear getting caught by a horse or a human and then suddenly a human riding a horse shows up.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)
  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    That's pretty cool. However, no human has ever won by more than 15min, and every horse has a 15min delay built into their times. So even the biggest winning margin of nearly 11 minutes would have lost to the horse if they had started at the same time.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    Back in my reddit days I wrote a long comment about the fact that zombies are scary because they are the ultimate persistence hunters.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Zombies aren't scary. They're popular movie monsters because, while looking vaguely human, they're sufficiently "othered" that you can kill them without remorse (thus acting as a convenient stand-in for other groups that the audience wishes they could do that to) and because they represent an apocalypse that kills most of the people but leaves the stuff behind, meaning that you don't have to deal with society anymore but you'll still easily have a roof over your head and food on your table (albeit mostly canned food.)

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    It’s a consequence of bipedalism, less energy consumption to run but also slower

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    It's a few things that stem from bipedalism:

    • We can run and breathe entirely separately. Most quadrupeds lack the ability to run and take breaths independently of the pace of each step. Watching cheetahs sprint, for example, show that they have no choice but to exhale every time their legs come together and inhale every time their legs push apart.
    • Running on our hind legs only frees up our hands to be able to use tools and weapons, maybe even water containers for drinking on the go.
    • We can see further by standing up, and can make tactical decisions based on terrain, while still running pretty much full speed.

    Combined with our unusual ability to cool ourselves by sweating, this gives us an advantage over pretty much any animal in the heat. Wolves and horses can still outrun humans in the cold, but lack the cooling mechanisms to maintain pace in the same heat that we can.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    We also have by far the best throwing game in the world. Some animals can spit with reasonable accuracy, some apes can kind of lob shit in a general direction, and there's that one lizard that can spray blood from its eye, but nothing in the animal kingdom past or present has a human's innate ability for ranged attack. The average man can throw a fist sized rock hard and accurate enough to crack a skull from 20 yards with his bare hand. And we've spent the last 10,000 years inventing newer and more impressive ways of throwing stuff.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Jogging is practice for how humans killed pretty much all the megafauna in the world: exhaustion hunting.

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    [–] 36 points 1 year ago

    Other animals get zoomies too.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Jogging from the perspective of non-human animals

    FTFY

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    “I don’t know why they’re running, but let’s chase them!”

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    [–] 28 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Whoever made this has never met a dog

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    So apex that most of us outsource our hunting and farming, which makes us fat and slow unless we purposefully burn energy for no other purpose than to burn it.

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    [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    One time, I was in the arctic doing some research. On a snowmobile, in winter, we crest a hill and see a couple of wolves pigging out on a caribou. I'm riding in the toboggan, and I start telling at the driver: "go go go!" They proceeded to chase our snowmobile for like a mile, with no hope at all of catching us, but running anyway. Like dogs chasing tires, I think they had no choice. Instincts are strong.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I say this to myself when I see people jogging and I really just want to yell "what are you running from!?"

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    [–] 16 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I know it's a joke. But would a wolf consider a human an apex predator? What about bears? Do these animals fear humans? I can't say I'm familiar with them. I figured they wouldn't, in most circumstances. I would think their default stance towards us is that we're their prey

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    We are certainly not their prey and without modern urban sprawl forcing animals into urbanized areas they would avoid humans as much as possible and this has been true for thousands of years.

    Humans are the ones wielding fire after all.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The bears and coyotes around here hide from me! Even if I try and creep on 'em, they still usually sense me and run.

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    [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    If an apex predator is running, maybe keep up.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Let's say it's part of a mating ritual. I know this is not true, but I believe it gets the point across.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I cannot stop laughing 😂

    Personally I think humans run because they are a species with enough cognitive abilities to be masochists

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    [–] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Conserving energy is not really our thing.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The thing is, humans are astonishingly good at conserving energy when running. We can literally run prey to death by just keeping on going when most animals run out of energy.

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    [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They are running from existential dread.

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    [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Animals understand play. Although not sure where the ball is.

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