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No Kings! (lemmy.world)
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[-] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

All of society runs on the underlying threat of violence/force... From staving off wars, to enforcing our laws. It all requires people to be cajoled into being good/better under the threat of punishment. Usually through isolation from the rest of society, or straight up violence.

That threat of force is given to the government on behalf of the authority and consent of the governed. If they continue to abuse it, then it's only on the governed to establish that change themselves. Either through political violence, or by changing the politicians / laws.

[-] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago

ARTHUR: The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. That is why I am your king!

DENNIS: Listen -- strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 22 hours ago

Watery tart

[-] [email protected] 15 points 22 hours ago

Both Barbie movies are way more based than they had any right to be.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

“Both”? Brother, there are way more than 2 Barbie movies. Waaaaaaay more.

The Barbie: Life in the Dreamhouse show is way better than you would expect it to be. Like not “good” necessarily but fun.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

2023 Barbie is nowhere near based, it feels like a half baked apology from Mattel, who happens to be the ones which forced unrealistic body types over women for a whole century

Honestly, not a good movie either, can't recall rn but I feel like 25% of it was about mattel corpo propaganda.

Some of it was fun though. I liked the flashy songs

[-] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago

Mattel made a movie based on their toy line and it had an agenda?? I'm aghast!

[-] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I get where you're coming from, but the new Barbie film was pretty based if you take a step back and examine it as a whole. I mean the whole Ken takeover of the Barbie village is strangely prophetic, given the whole trump takeover (so happy my small town had the biggest protest I've ever seen from her yesterday!) and the snippet about Margot explaining what fascism means. And this is coming from a 6'6 270lbs. Cis het ally with a shaved head and fairly thick beard. I enjoyed it for what it was. Yeah it's no citizen Kane, but it definitely hit higher than it's weight class.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 20 hours ago

That's from Toy Story 3, though.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago

Oh, forgive my ignorance. I just assumed there was a Barbie movie that I didn't see.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 12 hours ago

There are 52 barbie movies.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

All both of them!

[-] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

Whole Lee chet! I had no idea!

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Revolutionary Girl Barbie

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

What movie is this?

[-] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago

Toy Story 3

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Oh shit, I still haven't seen that. T. Hanks

[-] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

Yes, he voices Woody.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

It's the one where Woody and Buzz Lightyear finally fuck.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

Nice

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Side note but my partner and I just recently watched Toy Story 4 for the first time and, wow, what a disappointment compared to the first 3.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

It's still really good. I loved it. I get why people wanted the story to stop with 3 because it was such a good ending though.

I think if they want to make more they should make a new cast of toys so it's the same premise but different cast.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago

Yeah should've stopped at 3.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago

4 was better than 2

[-] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

I haven't seen 4 but 2 was my favorite lol

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

No system can achieve consensus consent of the governed. All governments maintain authority through a monopoly on violence.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

No systems that rely on and encourage centralization and concentration. Systems exist. They don't educate us about them purposefully.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago

Show me literally one ever.

Any government relies on a monopoly of violence, because some minority will not consent to rule. Lenient systems will settle towards "don't kill, cook, and eat your neighbors," some will settle towards total subjugation of their constituents.

If not prevented with violence, new violent power structures will form spontaneously.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

Too easy. Any anarchistic structure.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago

What "anarchistic structure" has derived authority exclusively through consent, and done so without allowing other violent power structures to form?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

Unless you can tell me of any structure that has succeeded in that. That is an irrelevant question

[-] [email protected] 0 points 10 hours ago

"allow" as in permit or not address... Obviously no structure is 100% successful at eliminating opposition, but without the monopoly of violence any government becomes usurped by another body that is willing to exert force.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

No one should have a monopoly of anything beyond their own person/labor/property. Much less violence. Jesus Christ, you're literally arguing for most of the issues with modern systems unironically.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

Anarchism doesn't mean the absence of force.

Just as tolerance cannot exist if those who are intolerant are tolerated. Those who violate the similar social agreement to consent. Forgo consent.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 10 hours ago

If you're going to motte and Bailey, try not to do it in one conversation. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

So a bunch of mental gymnastics later, we have two groups: those who consent to authority, and those who comply with authority because of the threat or application of violence.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago

I see. So you worked yourself into a corner and don't know where to go from here. So our claiming a fallacy. Gotcha. Honestly I didn't ever think you're really engaging in good faith anyhow.

this post was submitted on 14 Jun 2025
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