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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, I hear this one at work all the time. Sure thing boss. k-pain

[–] [email protected] 68 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I will never again make or believe a prediction about the duration of a war

[–] [email protected] 42 points 17 hours ago

Predictions like this are always tricky, but it's interesting to see how different the assessment of the situation is here compared to the propaganda in the mainstream media. These reports are far more rooted in material reality because people make financial decisions based on them.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 16 hours ago

My prediction: it'll last until it's over, but I could be wrong

[–] [email protected] 43 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Damn so us involvement actually caused russia to win more than if they just accepted crimea as part of russia?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That's not true. The war enabled the US to cannibalise Europe and put them on a very short leash for the foreseeable future. I'm not sure the four oblasts are nearly as valuable to Russia, even if they had not been absolutely wrecked by 11 years of war (so far).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

On the other hand, the US has also cannibalized the economies of their strongest vassals in such a way that a pink wave is liable to break out at some point.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 16 hours ago

tails-pout Well well it's a Banker's war after all same-as-it-ever-was

[–] [email protected] 41 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

while it is nevertheless relevant as a major publication by a western bank, this is such a stupid and ill-informed report. july 2025 is 2 months away and there is absolutely no way a peace treaty is signed by then. negotiations literally haven't even started. anyone who believes otherwise should have a look at this article on the nuts and bolts of diplomacy in the current context.

further, this is entirely unfounded and does not reflect russian troop/materiel replenishment. the comment about 118 years is just accountant map brained bullshit

Putin’s losses are also far from sustainable. At its current rate of gain, Russia will control all of Ukraine in about…118 years

unbelievably poor analysis

[–] [email protected] 16 points 15 hours ago

Putin’s losses are also far from sustainable. At its current rate of gain, Russia will control all of Ukraine in about…118 years

We are living in an early Soviet cartoon where the largest capitalist institutions have to reject basic laws of the universe like quantity → quality because they are Bolshevist propaganda. Terrible.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I agree there is a lot of stupid in the report, but there doesn't need to be a peace treaty signed for the war to end. It's not unthinkable that the US could walk away within two months if they decide that there's no path forward, or the AFU could start to visibly collapse. In either case, the war would be effectively over. It's obviously going to take more time for the hostilities to end and diplomacy to happen, but effectively the war would be over at that point.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

if you count scenarios where hostilities are ongoing as the war being over, the war is already over and has been since 2023. there's no outcome from here on out where ukraine isn't a failed state for at least the next generation, no matter what other territory changes hands or how many people die

[–] [email protected] 19 points 16 hours ago

I don't think there was any outcome where Ukraine could win from the start of the war, but what I'm talking about is the narrative collapse in the west. Right now we're still getting articles like this gem arguing that Ukraine is winning actually, and there is still popular belief in the west that the war can be won.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 17 hours ago

Because war is always linear, right?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 16 hours ago

Yeah this gives off the energy of a propaganda post to scare all of the capitalists and capitalist bootlickers about the conflict

[–] [email protected] 8 points 16 hours ago

The only way this happens in this timeline is if there is an extremely rapid pro Russian coup of Ukraine. And even then it would have to be like this weekend

[–] [email protected] 39 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Its going to be so tough to talk to liberals about this. They all have this hagiographic view of Zelesnky

[–] [email protected] 26 points 17 hours ago

AKSHUALLY ukrainians killed a billion russians because smol bean ~~finnish~~ sniper of kiev

[–] [email protected] 46 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

zelensky-pain he'll be in a small aircraft by september

[–] [email protected] 37 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

funniest outcome would be zelensky fleeing to russia

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago

Argentina would be way more funny.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 17 hours ago

He will live in a villa mansion outside Kracov running a shadow government until the EU decides they want good relations with Russia again, which is when he will have a heart attack.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Best case - "South Korea"

Still ok - "Israel"

Not great - "Georgia"

Worst case - "Belarus"

Hmm

[–] [email protected] 26 points 17 hours ago

Best case = best case for the us

[–] [email protected] 23 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The financiers have lost interest in this war, so it's time for it to end

[–] [email protected] 11 points 16 hours ago

Next up AUKUS!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

NATO's Adventures: Endgame (2025)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It’s like the god dang avengers

[–] [email protected] 10 points 16 hours ago

I don't see Russia stopping until they drain Ukraine to breaking point and prove their point by exploiting it a little.