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Like, Xi coming out in a military uniform declaring the official establishment of the fourth international and an open invite to all current BRICS members, war against Israel, and a fatwa against the uh imperial powers (fuck off fbi).

Or maybe Xi steps down to be replaced by motherfucking mao-shining

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 15 hours ago

That's the problem with "Do Nothing, Win". You get addicted to doing nothing.

I'm kind of only half-joking. Reality is China is on a guaranteed course to become the world superpower, I don't suppose they're eager to change course.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 17 hours ago

fourth international of BRICS

not even half of BRICS is socialist so I'm afraid this is revisionism comrade gulag

[–] [email protected] 59 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

they can't even do what colombia did and break ties to isntreal.

also bring working hours to 35

[–] [email protected] 28 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

they can't even do what colombia did and break ties to isntreal.

God damn…Life is just trash, isn’t it? kitty-birthday-sad

[–] [email protected] 26 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

gotta be convincing fellow countryman, and not hoping china do shit, what else is new

[–] [email protected] 31 points 22 hours ago

You know, how about we wish for a radical flank effect thing.

You know, even in Cold War times, the Soviet Union initially didn't help for shit much. One of its key driving forces to pro-Soviet intervention was, really, its more revolutionary yet weaker smaller militant partners dragged them along, like Cuba in Latin America, or China in East Asia, regarding the Korean War.

The thing is, we don't have such radical forces, domestic or international, to push more revolutionary goals

[–] [email protected] 28 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Chinese people don't want it. Like even if most are pro-Palestine, I don't believe they're willing to sacrifice their current material comforts with open conflict with the west, especially if it appeared to be due to China's actions rather than attack from outside.

China's a democracy, but Chinese people aren't all ideological socialists, so what's the government to do?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago

Treatlerism with Chinese Characteristics?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 20 hours ago

its purging time

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It would be a strategic mistake. We are in the interwar period now. China must minimize the harm it recieves during this period and conserve its power and alliances for the coming world war. Allowing the empire to fight various other resistance forces worldwide and use up its ammunition reserves and political capital with other nations is necessary to be able to defeat it in a direct conflict without taking heavy losses.

While it would be nice if China could save the entire world the #1 goal must be protecting the Chinese Socialist Project. Because when the dust settles the world will need to be rebuilt, and we will need China whole to do it.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (4 children)

I’m being tongue in cheek but

We are in the interwar period now.

We have begun the war period. There is no harm reduction, China cannot just sneak itself out of the limelight and into utopia. The west is gunning for them, and trump/US is very willing to launch a war of attrition.

BRICS is still only in the promising, hopeful stages. For all their progress in international relations, China desperately needs to build a much stronger coalition. They need to go out more, stop studying theory all the time

[–] [email protected] 49 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Also I'll just be real with you. You don't know what China should do. You have opinions on it sure, but the information you have access to is nothing compared to what the people leading China have access to. Lets not try to pretend like any of us could do a better job than what the CPC is doing.

You are experiencing the Dunning-Kruger effect. China is led by professional, intelligent, and capable communists who put all of us on this site to shame. I garuntee they have a better grasp of what needs to be done than any of us do to achieve victory.

You should go read some of the statements put out by the CPC some time. They are very informative. China is not sitting idly just because they arent launching dongfengs at the empire. We must trust our Chinese comrades because frankly they are our only hope, and we in the west have failed where they have succeeded time and again. We should not be telling them what to do but looking to them for guidance instead.

I understand you mean well, but seriously just realize how much you are not aware of. The CPC has an entire intelligence apparatus. They know more than we do. They have more expertise. Its time we in the west realized these things, and started acting like what we are. Failures who China is going to have to come save.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I agree with you in the broad strokes, but I couldn't let this fly

the information you have access to is nothing compared to what the people leading China have access to

This was a bad argument when the Dubya defenders made it regarding the War on Terror, and it's a bad argument now. Regardless of what information the Chinese leadership has access too, I think it is clear that a) China has room to make bigger moves on the international stage than it is currently making and b) many of the moves it is currently making unnecessarily err on the side of caution/imperial collaboration to the detriment of the global socialist project.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Would you make the same arguments about the USSR and the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact? I'm sure there were many at the time who decried Stalin for not marching on Berlin immediately. But had he done so the imperial powers would have united against him, and the USSR would have fallen. The USSR did what it had to do to beat the Nazis. Even if its actions don't pass an ideological purity test that is the reality.

The same goes for China now. Any overtly agressive move it makes risks allying the imperialist countries, which are currently starting to squabble amongst themselves, against it. China is being catious yes, but would you too not be catious if you had humanities future on your shoulders?

Also what part of the global socialist project is being harmed? The DPRK only exists because of China. Laos and Vietnam are being helped a ton, and are benefitting greatly from their relationship with China. Cuba is being given aid in getting solar panels, and food production setup despite massive challenges getting any goods into Cuba.

Those are the only socialist nations today. Do we expect China to start exporting its revolution abroad by force? What exactly is it you want China to do?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

It could disavow Israel and stop working with it. That'd be nice. Plus like 90% of the world is anti-Israel at this point so it would only piss off America and Israel and Germany.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago

Israel is a disgusting fascist apartheid state so i understand the desire there, but its also basically Americas achilles heel. Its been known to steal American secrets and sell them to its enemies to make a buck and im guessing thats why China doesnt cut ties. Theyre using Israel to undermine the US most likely.

The issue is we dont know why they are doing what they do. We can speculate like i just did but who knows. All we can really do is hope they have a good reason for keeping ties with the Israelis for now, and that it'll pay off.

Its not like China is unaware that Israel is evil. And many of their fellow BRICS members are going hard against it. So they must have some reason for doing what they do. We just dont know what it is.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Its time we in the west realized these things, and started acting like what we are. Failures who China is going to have to come save.

We know, that's why all the comments in here are variations of "China please come save us" and "Why isn't China coming and saving us?"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

The west is gunning for them, and trump/US is very willing to launch a war of attrition.

The west is still too reliant on China to gun for them, honestly. Half of goods have still been excepted from the 'tariff war', and the other half are just being shipped through or to other western countries with a minimal reduction in profit. Europe if anything is embracing China as an economic ally. There is no real attrition war here.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 23 hours ago

They need to go out more, stop studying theory all the time

[–] [email protected] 18 points 23 hours ago

We wont really be in the war period imo until its a hot war between China and the US. The smaller wars we see now are build ups to it. The same thing happened before WW2 you saw smaller conflicts that got more common or grew larger until it was a whole world war. Im still waiting for the US to invade mexico to be the germany invades poland moment.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 22 hours ago

During the first cold war, the US made a successful rhetorical pitch by framing capital and its institutions as the calm, rules-based approach to international relations. Despite how much that is not actually the way the US empire operates when rubber hits the road, it has appeal because broadly that's what people want from international institutions. They want calm. They want to be told that level heads are prevailing, that tomorrow is going to look like today.

After the last few decades (and especially with Trump making waves), that desire is still there but more and more people recognize that the US cannot, and has not, delivered. Calm boring BRICS, quietly spinning up its wheels, can make (and maybe even fulfill) that promise.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 23 hours ago

Most people want a confortable status quo, China has this, they successfully updated to the XXIst century with a big cool revolution and now they're interested in enjoying life under the current better-yet-imperfect system