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Like, Xi coming out in a military uniform declaring the official establishment of the fourth international and an open invite to all current BRICS members, war against Israel, and a fatwa against the uh imperial powers (fuck off fbi).

Or maybe Xi steps down to be replaced by motherfucking mao-shining

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I agree with you in the broad strokes, but I couldn't let this fly

the information you have access to is nothing compared to what the people leading China have access to

This was a bad argument when the Dubya defenders made it regarding the War on Terror, and it's a bad argument now. Regardless of what information the Chinese leadership has access too, I think it is clear that a) China has room to make bigger moves on the international stage than it is currently making and b) many of the moves it is currently making unnecessarily err on the side of caution/imperial collaboration to the detriment of the global socialist project.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Would you make the same arguments about the USSR and the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact? I'm sure there were many at the time who decried Stalin for not marching on Berlin immediately. But had he done so the imperial powers would have united against him, and the USSR would have fallen. The USSR did what it had to do to beat the Nazis. Even if its actions don't pass an ideological purity test that is the reality.

The same goes for China now. Any overtly agressive move it makes risks allying the imperialist countries, which are currently starting to squabble amongst themselves, against it. China is being catious yes, but would you too not be catious if you had humanities future on your shoulders?

Also what part of the global socialist project is being harmed? The DPRK only exists because of China. Laos and Vietnam are being helped a ton, and are benefitting greatly from their relationship with China. Cuba is being given aid in getting solar panels, and food production setup despite massive challenges getting any goods into Cuba.

Those are the only socialist nations today. Do we expect China to start exporting its revolution abroad by force? What exactly is it you want China to do?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

It could disavow Israel and stop working with it. That'd be nice. Plus like 90% of the world is anti-Israel at this point so it would only piss off America and Israel and Germany.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago

Israel is a disgusting fascist apartheid state so i understand the desire there, but its also basically Americas achilles heel. Its been known to steal American secrets and sell them to its enemies to make a buck and im guessing thats why China doesnt cut ties. Theyre using Israel to undermine the US most likely.

The issue is we dont know why they are doing what they do. We can speculate like i just did but who knows. All we can really do is hope they have a good reason for keeping ties with the Israelis for now, and that it'll pay off.

Its not like China is unaware that Israel is evil. And many of their fellow BRICS members are going hard against it. So they must have some reason for doing what they do. We just dont know what it is.