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[–] 122 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I just decided I'll never buy a jeep.

These kinds of decisions are unilateral. You don't go in this direction without that being the overarching goal.

Zero tolerance for this shit. Put ads in something I own, and I'll sell it, trash it, never buy it again.

This should be a death rattle for any brand to even consider.

Fuck Jeep.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago* (8 children)

    What was the one with premium subscription for heated seats? I think it was Mercedes.

    ...and I think Audi dabbled in this area but backed down.

    Ao that's Mercedes, Audi, and Jeep I'll never buy from, and obviously Tesla too.

    EDIT Oh dear, it's so much worsethan I knew:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=car+companies+with+subscription+services

    TOYOTA how could you???

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Clearly, the problem is that they went with a pure subscription model instead of also having an ad-supported model. Like, supposing that you're allowed to turn on the seat heater, but then the car starts playing advertisements while it's running. They could offer a premium seat heater subscription if you want to buy an ad-free experience.

    shakes head sorrowfully

    They aren't very innovative.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago

    But.. but Stelantis is working to reduce the frequency of the ads! Don't you know that the company that implemented this practice is witerawally powerless to stop it, they're doing everything they can to make this change (that they made) better for EVERYONE, because they understand our frustration and they care 🥺👉🏽👈🏽

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I’ll buy a jeep but it will have to be at least 20 years old.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    20 is a funny way to spell 40.

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  • [–] 80 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Truly, we have left the era of irony and entered the era of farce.

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  • [–] 76 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    Can't wait for the "the doors will remain locked for the length of the ad" update. /s

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    [–] 33 points 2 years ago

    Completely unsurprising while at the same time completely unfuckingreal

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I can't wait for every vehicle to introduce this, thus leading to a perverse incentive whereby drivers go out of their way to avoid stopping as much as possible. How could it go wrong?

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    [–] 26 points 2 years ago (1 child)
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    [–] 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I expect someone will start a business to remove that aftermarket

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I imagine the manufacturers and their lawyers are why we don't have greater access to OBDII and CANBUS info.

    There's a number of things I'd love to control via CANBUS, like the remote start system, climate control, etc.

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    [–] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The ad bubble needs to pop.

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    [–] 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Article Summery:

    In a move that has left drivers both frustrated and bewildered, Stellantis has introduced full-screen pop-up ads on its infotainment systems. Specifically, Jeep owners have reported being bombarded with advertisements for Mopar's extended warranty service. The kicker? These ads appear every time the vehicle comes to a stop. Imagine pulling up to a red light, checking your GPS for directions, and suddenly, the entire screen is hijacked by an ad. That's the reality for some Stellantis owners. Instead of seamless functionality, drivers are now forced to manually close out of ads just to access basic vehicle functions.

    One Jeep 4xe owner recently shared their frustration on an online forum, detailing how these pop-ups disrupt the driving experience. Stellantis, responding through their "JeepCares" representative, confirmed that these ads are part of the contractual agreement with SiriusXM and suggested that users simply tap the "X" to dismiss them. While the company claims to be working on reducing the frequency of these interruptions, the damage to customer trust may already be done.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    "you agreed to display ads on your vehicles. This vehicle is mine. You may not display ads in it."

    Honestly I'd have a lawyer on the phone in a heartbeat. I'd be surprised if someone hasn't already started a lawsuit.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    So glad my '98 piece o' junk doesn't have "infotainment"...

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Fucking Jeep/Chrysler. Like who keeps buying this garbage?

    If someone gave me one, I'd sell it before it had a chance of showing a CEL.

    Jeep/Chrysler history: an amalgamation of numerous car companies since the 1950's, so all sorts of competing design approaches, conflicting engineering, and dead weight.

    And I'd love to own a Studebaker Hawk (which was Kaiser before Studebaker).

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    [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    The corporate overlords have officially weaponized your brake pedal. Every full stop now triggers a mandatory engagement with their propaganda—sorry, extended warranty offers. Because nothing says "customer-centric innovation" like holding your climate controls hostage until you acknowledge their marketing diarrhea.

    Legal? Oh, absolutely. Buried in 87 pages of EULA hieroglyphics you clicked while inhaling dealership coffee. Your consent is perpetual, transferable, and now includes a subscription to existential despair.

    Safety advocates are oddly silent. Distracted driving? Nah, just monetized mindfulness. That red light isn’t a pause—it’s a revenue event. The dashboard has become a Times Square billboard, and you’re the captive audience.

    Solution? Revert to a ’92 Corolla. Analog controls, zero telemetry, and the only pop-up is the hood when you need to check the oil.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    We live in a world of no regulation (or, to be precise, no enforcement on regulations) but...

    Holy shit? Stopping is the one time you actually SHOULD look at your infotainment screen to futz with climate control or check how many minutes until the next exit and so forth.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    Burn Stellantis to the fucking ground.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago*

    Ah, just on the screen. If they had those HUD windshield projectors, they could put them on the windshield too. I mean, that's pretty much just unused eyeball space!

    EDIT: The car has an audio system too, and here, the ad-displaying system also controls the audio, so this muting nonsense that one runs into with web browser ads isn't a problem! They could have ads with an audio component!

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    This isn't a new thing because even my decade old Toyota car with the SirusXM car radio automatically switches to the XM 1 radio station that advertises the SirusXM subscription service about once a month ever since I cancelled the subscription a year after the original three month one expired. Fuck that company and their monthly resubscribtion demand letters also!

    Hmm. I think that this is maybe kind of a fundamental problem with buying something that you want to keep with attached hardware from a company with a subscription service that you don't want.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago*

    Stellantis is fucking up so badly, they only have 1 car in top 20 here now. This is a Peugeot placed 19, but Stellantis used to have a couple in top 10! (Denmark)
    It's really sad, because they now also have Opel, which used to be a brand known for good quality, and I'm still rolling with an 18 year old Opel Vectra that is still going strong and drives almost as new, but this is a car from BEFORE Opel became Stellantis.
    We are considering buying an electric soon, and there is NOTHING from Stelantis we are considering, because we have lost trust in them.
    There are lots of bad stories with Stellantis cars here, cars breaking down and dealers not honoring warranties!! And extremely expensive repairs.
    The only car that is worse is Tesla. With 30% failure rate at the 4 year legally mandated safety check!!

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I would rip my screen off the dash

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    You can't, they control major parts of the car and cost thousands to replace when they inevitably fail.

    It's over $10k in Australia for a Corolla infotainment system, the cars won't drive without one, once the infotainment systems die in the future the cars are scrap metal.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This is not that new.

    Android auto would allow apps to play ads when the car was in park.

    After using the ad support version of Pandora for most of a decade, when the full screen video ad popped up on my 2016 work truck, it was immediately and permanently uninstalled. I used 128gb microSD in my phone instead.

    I've never used a streaming service for music again.

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    [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    This needs to be put to a stop, seriously.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    See, they're probably just framing it in negative terms. Just has to be presented in the right way.

    https://www.telenav.com/blog/why-in-car-advertising-works

    Why In-Car Advertising Works

    For over two decades, advertising has fueled the online and mobile world. What can it do for your car?

    Advertising is worth it to the consumer.

    In-car ads are a win-win for drivers and automakers.

    In-car ads can also be rather helpful while on the drive.

    As a matter of fact, a recent McKinsey Report [Monetizing Car Data, McKinsey & Company September 2016] indicates that most consumers would prefer ads for connected navigation service.

    The way to think of it isn't "ads come up whenever my car stops", but "ads go away whenever it starts moving!"

    Drivers will never see an ad while their vehicles are in motion. Ads automatically disappear whenever the car is moving or when users interact with other in-dash functions. For example, when a driver starts her vehicle, a relevant ad will appear on her dashboard. The moment the driver shifts into reverse to back out the driveway, the ad automatically disappears.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Well technically you can block ads as long as your phone or other device that works as hotspot/Wi-Fi tethering has adblocker that runs on root level since car need network to connect it.
    On root level adblocker nothing can escape even the sneakiest ads will got blocked (as long as your adblocker has feature like uBlock origin filters & you have matching filters)

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