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The avocado, alligator pear or avocado pear (Persea americana) is an evergreen tree in the laurel family (Lauraceae). It is native to the Americas and was first domesticated in Mesoamerica more than 5,000 years ago. It was prized for its large and unusually oily fruit. The tree likely originated in the highlands bridging south-central Mexico and Guatemala. Avocado trees have a native growth range from Mexico to Costa Rica. Its fruit, sometimes also referred to as an alligator pear or avocado pear, is botanically a large berry containing a single large seed. Sequencing of its genome showed that the evolution of avocados was shaped by polyploidy events and that commercial varieties have a hybrid origin. Avocado trees are partly self-pollinating, and are often propagated through grafting to maintain consistent fruit output. Avocados are presently cultivated in the tropical and Mediterranean climates of many countries. Mexico is the world's leading producer of avocados as of 2020, supplying nearly 30% of the global harvest in that year.

The fruit of domestic varieties have smooth, buttery, golden-green flesh when ripe. Depending on the cultivar, avocados have green, brown, purplish, or black skin, and may be pear-shaped, egg-shaped, or spherical. For commercial purposes the fruits are picked while unripe and ripened after harvesting. The nutrient density and extremely high fat content of avocado flesh are useful to a variety of cuisines and are often eaten to enrich vegetarian diets.

In major production regions like Chile, Mexico and California the water demands of avocado farms place strain on local resources. Avocado production is also implicated in other externalities, including deforestation and human rights concerns associated with the partial control of their production in Mexico by organized crime. Global warming is expected to result in significant changes to the suitable growing zones for avocados, and place additional pressures on the locales in which they are produced due to heat waves and drought.

Taxonomy and evolution

The genus Persea to which the avocado belongs is considered to have a North American origin, with Persea suggested to have diversified in Central America during the Pleistocene epoch. The modern avocado is thought to have speciated from other Persea during the Pleistocene, estimated at around either 1.3 million or 430,000 years ago. A number of authors, including Connie Barlow in her 2001 book The Ghosts of Evolution, have speculated that the avocado is an "evolutionary anachronism" with megafaunal dispersal syndrome (a concept originally proposed in the 1980s by Paul S. Martin and Daniel H. Janzen[30]), arguing that the avocado likely coevolved dispersal of its large seed by now-extinct megafauna. Barlow proposed that the dispersers included the gomphothere (elephant relative) Cuvieronius, as well as ground sloths, toxodontids, and glyptodonts.

Etymology

The word avocado comes from the Spanish aguacate, which derives from the Nahuatl (Mexican) word āhuacatl [aːˈwakat͡ɬ], which goes back to the proto-Aztecan *pa:wa. In Molina's Nahuatl dictionary "auacatl" is given also as the translation for compañón "testicle", and this has been taken up in popular culture where a frequent claim is that testicle was the word's original meaning. This is not the case, as the original meaning can be reconstructed as "avocado" – rather the word seems to have been used in Nahuatl as a euphemism for "testicle".

In Central American, Caribbean Spanish-speaking countries, and Spain it is known by the Mexican Spanish name aguacate, while South American Spanish-speaking countries Argentina, Chile, Perú and Uruguay use a Quechua-derived word, palta. The Nahuatl āhuacatl can be compounded with other words, as in ahuacamolli, meaning avocado soup or sauce, from which the Spanish word guacamole derives.

Cultivation

Domestication, leading to genetically distinct cultivars, possibly originated in the Tehuacan Valley in the state of Puebla, Mexico. There is evidence for three possible separate domestications of the avocado, resulting in the currently recognized Guatemalan (quilaoacatl), Mexican (aoacatl) and West Indian (tlacacolaocatl) landraces. The Guatemalan and Mexican and landraces originated in the highlands of those countries, while the West Indian landrace is a lowland variety that ranges from Guatemala, Costa Rica, Colombia, Ecuador to Peru, achieving a wide range through human agency before the arrival of the Europeans. The three separate landraces were most likely to have already intermingled[a] in pre-Columbian America and were described in the Florentine Codex. As a result of artificial selection, the fruit and correspondingly the seeds of cultivated avocados became considerably larger relative to their earlier wild forebears millennia before the Columbian exchange.

The earliest residents of northern coastal Peru were living in temporary camps in an ancient wetland and eating avocados, along with chilies, mollusks, sharks, birds, and sea lions. The oldest discovery of an avocado pit comes from Coxcatlan Cave, dating from around 9,000 to 10,000 years ago. The avocado tree also has a long history of cultivation in Central and South America, likely beginning as early as 5,000 BC. A water jar shaped like an avocado, dating to AD 900, was discovered in the pre-Inca city of Chan Chan.

Production

In 2020, world production of avocados was 8.1 million tonnes, led by Mexico with 30% (2.4 million tonnes) of the total (table). Other major producers were Colombia, Dominican Republic, Peru, and Indonesia, together producing 35% of the world total. Despite market effects of the 2020 COVID-19 pandemic, volume production of avocados in Mexico increased by 40% over 2019 levels.

In 2018, the US Department of Agriculture estimated that 231,028 hectares (570,880 acres) in total were under cultivation for avocado production in Mexico, a 6% increase over the previous year, and that 2 million tonnes would be exported. The Mexican state of Michoacán is the world leader in avocado production, accounting for 80% of all Mexican output. Most Mexican growers produce the Hass variety due to its longer shelf life for shipping and high demand among consumers.

Market

Seventy-six percent of Mexico's avocado exports go to the United States, with the free trade agreement between the US, Canada and Mexico in July 2020 facilitating avocado shipments within the North American free trade zone.

Culinary

The fruit of horticultural cultivars has a markedly higher fat content than most other fruit, mostly monounsaturated fat, and as such serves as an important staple in the diet of consumers who have limited access to other fatty foods (high-fat meats and fish, dairy products). Having a high smoke point, avocado oil is expensive compared to common salad and cooking oils, and is mostly used for salads or dips.

A ripe avocado yields to gentle pressure when held in the palm of the hand and squeezed. The flesh is prone to enzymatic browning, quickly turning brown after exposure to air. To prevent this, lime or lemon juice can be added to avocados after peeling.

It is used in both savory and sweet dishes, though in many countries not for both. The avocado is common in vegetarian cuisine as a substitute for meats in sandwiches and salads because of its high fat content.

Generally, avocado is served raw, though some cultivars, including the common 'Hass', can be cooked for a short time without becoming bitter. The flesh of some avocados may be rendered inedible by heat. Prolonged cooking induces this chemical reaction in all cultivars

It is used as the base for the Mexican dip known as guacamole, as well as a spread on corn tortillas or toast, served with spices. Avocado is a primary ingredient in avocado soup. Avocado slices are frequently added to hamburgers and tortas and is a key ingredient in California rolls and other makizushi ("maki", or rolled sushi).

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

I'm not an accelerationist, but gee whiz, it sure would be nice to know what being in a good mood and looking forward to the future feels like every day. doomer

Sorry sorry, revolutionary optimism is where it's at, I just don't like seeing people suffer. Death to America tho. bloomer

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There was a huge spider in my bathroom last night and now I’m scared to go in there. I need to peeeeeee

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

They should invent an excitement that isn't equal parts anxiety. Even good things are like a tense position on a chess board "I'm up a piece! Time to make sure I don't blunder..."

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You ever have some thoughts you can barely connect together and can't make a comprehensive post about?

Nsfw idea about smuggling

spoilerI watched a boy boy video where the one guy shoves a flash drive up his ass because he's afraid of it being confiscated and later takes it out and smells it.

You can put in an internal aka female condom in your vagina hours before sex and the ring keeps it inside. In theory you could keep one of those in (i don't think you can put them in your ass with the ring) if you think you might have to smuggle something inside you and it'll get less dirty and there's less risk of infection for you.

That's assuming they don't check your cavities first though

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

I made the mistake of doing my taxes today (shouldn’t be thinking about this right now), but I’ve been making the same amount since I graduated college in 2020 and that really fucking hit me.

You know how the world typically progresses at least somewhat and old ways age out? It looks like the old ways are hanging on for dear life and bringing everything and everyone down with them.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Was trying to find a chomsky-yes-honey quote about comparing having a job to being under a tyranny, and found a reddit thread about it. The top comment

Noam Chomsky is an idiot and has always been an idiot. For someone who says that having a job is tyranny he has always had a job and was paid for his work.

I have never worked in a job where my dress was controlled, when I went to the bathroom, when I went to lunch or what I did and I was free to leave at any time and did and didn't starve.

I don't know why anyone still listens to him.

Kinda funny that they hyperfocus on the specific examples about what companies control (which some companies do have these policies of bathroom breaks, dress codes etc.), but completely miss the point that you are basically at the whims of whatever your company tells you to do. And because you literally dont starve the moment you get fired, its fine for some reason?

edit: Oh man, that thread gets even better. Someone suggests "Be your own boss or live off savings. Society isn't gonna subsidize you sitting on your own ass all day, if that's what you're implying." in response to being told there is no alternative to working. Brother that is working. Too bad these bootstrap people never have heat for people that just inherit wealth and throw it in the stock market or rental property, as if that is "working".

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

The best thing about chumpsky is his own work denounces him

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Made Polish pickle soup again, but with the right kind of pickle (lacto-fermented salt pickles). Maybe I just picked a bad brand but it was way better with the wrong (vinegar) pickle.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Having a bad day wouldn't be so bad if it was happening on a good hair day. But I'm having a bad day AND a bad hair day

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Q Thank you, sir. The US government is die

THE PRESIDENT: its dying?

Q Yes.

THE PRESIDENT: Wow. I didn’t know that. I just — you’re telling me now for the first time.

The American State led an amazing life. What else can you say? It was an amazing country. Whether you agree or not, it was an amazing country that led an amazing life. I’m actually saddened to hear that. I am saddened to hear that.

Thank you very much.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

They closed down the tamales to go place omw to work ooooooooooooooh

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Another day another crashout.

I fucking could have just had a job and been working, and also taking some classes at a community college. Maybe on weekends I could just hang out with friends.

But nooooo, porky had to go and “fix” everything. We don’t have any more jobs left because people working is a problem porky wanted to “solve”. And thanks to his solution, I’m an unemployed loser literally because porky is too lazy to expand his business.

Housing and education are literal luxuries. Again, all thanks to porky “fixing” things.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Wakfu’s a pretty fun show. It’s cute and reminds me of Avatar.

Unfortunately it also has some fanservice so I wouldn’t recommend it for kids.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Christmans book is finally shipping to me, tbh I kinda figured I was forgotten about. I guess it just takes a while to figure all the logistics out

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Chris mentioned on the last episode that they (or whoever handles their logistics) had just received the books. Hopefully the fact the print on demand service took so long is a sign that it’s a quality printing. I know generally print on demand is very hit or miss, like some springer hardcovers just fall apart since moving to print on demand

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

It’s probably fine that Musk wanted access to a system that has payment information and SSNs of like a hundred million people, right?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@[email protected] we do a little perfect victory Dooley here as well (in ranked)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Absolutely blessed and BiS skills. My perfect Dooley was with critical core + pulse rifle too! It's quite the thing because I see people put so much more thought into Vanessa and Pyg builds only to get evaporated in 10 seconds. Nice pufferfish, bro, unfortunately KABLAMOOO!!

You either win by day 11 or you run into, what I like to call, body dysmorphia builds.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I definitely got super lucky with skills. I fought Captain Arken and was really hounding for the "when you use an item shield 40" skill but didn't get it. I could've gone infinite harmadillo with that.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think about falling down stairs a lot. Like, maybe it would be fun y'know, just sorta mix things up a bit. Some nice carpeted stairs in an office, mmmmmmm, I could fall down those. Or some big marble stairs at an old train station, that would be something. Falling down stairs. Think about it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There is a new viral trend among teenagers, they call it "Falling Down Stairs". Could your child be in danger?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I unironically used to do this all the time as a teenager just to get some laughs out of my friends or scare my mom (which unfortunately puts me in the same camp as Justin Trudeau). Ah, to be pliable again...

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Authorities say that kids are using special codes to talk about falling down stairs without their parents knowing.

BRB: be right back (after falling down some stairs)

LOL: laughing out loud (because I fell down the stairs)

OMG: oh my god (I think I see some stairs that I can fall down)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Playing Cathay in Total War Warhammer, the faction based on China. It's so comically orientalist. "Fighting as one mind" is the classic Asian hivemind trope, constant yapping about "the mighty dragon" and "our honorable ancestors". Can't blame the devs too much for this since it's just adapting a decade-old IP, but it's pretty cringe not gonna lie.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Nobody look out for oldhammer pygimies. I love Warhammer fantasy but its so whack outside of not!europe and not really in good way (well besides the chaos dwarfs and the not!necrons)

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (17 children)

no-choice Nerds sadly due to the Trump tariffs, you are going to have to comment on the general megathread 25% more than normal

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Anyone played Triangle Strategy? I have heard something about the ending(s) and I need to know if it's true before I bother trying to give the game a try

spoilersA friend of a friend said that 2/3 of the possible endings result in slavery being okay with the main protagonists of the story, and that it's written like it's a good thing. Can I just get a true/untrue on that, because I'd like to avoid spoilers as much as possible if it's actually worth playing

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

i'm pretty sure thats true. the best true ending is decent though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

That is a common theme in anime and stuff right now. So I would be unsurprised if it was true

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

600 turns down, only 300 more to go!!!

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago

::: spoiler Dark humor stolen from RedNote

"Many Americans believe the US government faked the moon landing, but in China we believe it. Why? Because when we got there, we couldn't find any indigenous people."

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

(CW:misogyny, landlords)

https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1dcxrdk/run_my_entire_life_for_20hour_fantasy_authors_ad/

This is a little petty of me but I’ve hated renowned Fantasy author Patrick Rothfuss for years. I’ve long suspected that he’s basically a “niceguy” pretending to be one of the good ones, pretending to be vaguely feminist. Suspicions I’ll call confirmed when he wrote that weird, degrading, Ernest Cline-esque fantasy where the high school crush who doesn’t pay attention to the nerdy guy ruins herself (in his eyes) by going into pornography.

But I’m feeling somewhat vindicated here because, if this ad is the real deal, Rothfuss got a divorce, then put out an ad looking to hire a nanny/personal assistant/groundskeeper/maid/property manager/personal trainer/private chef for $20 an hour. Also outed himself as a landlord. lol. Lmao.

My dislike of Rothfuss started when I was reading his first bad book and I watched a recording of a panel he did, which Robin Hobb (a writer I adore) was also on. A question was asked, one I remember thinking Hobb was well suited to answer, and she goes to start talking and Rothfuss cuts her off and talks over her. And ever since I’ve disliked Rothfuss, but I’ve never been entirely sure if that dislike came from a genuine read of his attitudes, work, and actions or if I’ve been biased because he was once mildly rude to someone whose work I enjoy. But I think between this and a few other things he’s done over the years it’s fair to say he’s kind of a shitty person.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ran into a person on lemm.ee who is doubling down on the idea that "authoritarianism" is only when governments do it and that corporations and private citizens cannot be authoritarian. agony-soviet

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

That's a very silly thread, Lemmy.ml is always a honeypot for absolute zingers

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuji Apples are back in season! :reisen-dance: I'm so happy about this information! jerma-happy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Love that crunch with just the right amount of tartness.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

listening to monday chapo and they’ve remade the OneyPlays clone hypothetical out of whole cloth

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

First Zach absolutely trounces them with his perfect Trump impression, now this? For shame, Mr Chapo.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

New bit: 4chan ends up getting shut down for both pornography and “LGBT content” by the Trump administration.

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