We're taking Alberta, folks. Canadians, you're welcome.
this post was submitted on 25 Dec 2024
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You can keep the people. You cant have any of the Rockies, or the badlands. But yeah I'd happily ship off the whole population of Alberta. Most of them are Trump supporters anyway, though don't ask me how that works.
Sorry we've already sold mining and logging contracts for everything north of Calgary or West of Alberta Highway 2.
Oh and none of those first nations land reservation treaties were made with the US gov so they're void.
Yes, I want senate seats and state reps from every state in mexico.
What is 
fascination with Greenland? He wanted to snatch it from Denmark last time as well.
He's aware of the melting arctic due to climate change, he knows there will be competition, perhaps even war with Russia in the future or at least a scramble for drawing lines for resource rights. Greenland would provide a strategic location for further encircling Russia and is rich in minerals and access to undersea gas/oil fields and he loves, loves, loves getting more resources like a map-vidya-game player who thinks they alone are the key to success. It also can police and provide access to newly opened arctic shipping lanes.
It looks Huuuuge on a mercator projection.
Even without distortion it's still yuge.
Damn I knew it was big but that really is massive for an island.
Edit: It's the largest island in the world, more than double the next. (New Guinea)
Gall-peters projection for the win, eff the haters.
:projection:
size complex
He doesn't know about the Mercator Effect
45-47
That makes it sound like a range. He's doing numbers badly.
Trump is going to end up bringing some freakish hoi4 player into his orbit, like the Russian state did with Grisha, who's going to feed him increasingly deranged map painting ideas
Canada invoking article 5 would be kind of hilarious not gonna lie.
Yes do it I want to go to war with Canada
they will welcome us as liberators, this time for sure
President James Madison was intrigued by the analysis of Major General Henry Dearborn that in the event of war, Canada would be easy pickings — even that an invasion would be welcomed by the Canadians. [source]
Joining the Hexbear Cavalry in the conquest of Vancouver.
I'm putting one of these countries invoking Article 5 against the United States on my 2025 bingo card.
I'll put they do, but literally nothing happens anyway on mine.
Or they do, but then the rest of NATO kicks Greenland out for "misusing Article 5" (even though they followed the rules exactly as they were written.)
Conservatives when they don't know what a vassal is:
But vassals don't change color to match the overlord, the man wants to map paint
Literally me playing Victoria 3
Neoimperialism is so soy, real conservative men do Tradimperialism.
Please do it, it would be so funny to invade our own allies.
As a Canadian I support this. Gotta commit to the bit so everyone can have a good laugh.
I mean, you syrup-heads are basically Americans already.
Sometimes even worse. At least when theyre driving across the border for outlet shopping.
And end up alone and without allies.
It would be pretty funny if Trump implodes NATO by going to war with Denmark
Still have plenty of vassals though
IDK, they might all leave and join for BRICKS on the same day.
Poland would absolutely help them with the invasion
I don’t see why this would be bad for those countries. They are already colonies, and instead of being another Puerto Rico, you might as well petition to become a proper US state so you get two senators and a handful of congress representatives and federal funding. At least you get some say in US politics.
Europe should obviously do the same too.
Europe becoming part of the us would be very bad for russia and china. Because then the commitment by the US would be even higher. Canada yeah I could accept but Greenland will definitely end up like Hawaii.
Canada, Panama and colonial Greenland are obviously not utopian societies but becoming part of the dysfunctional American empire world be detrimental to their populations. I don't know about Panama but Canada and Greenland has public healthcare. Losing that would be a major setback for ordinary people.
And in the case of Panama and Greenland their population is not considered white and they would be treated as second-rate citizens in their own country. Greenland suffers a similar situation currently, being a Danish colony, but at least there is an understanding between Nuuk and Copenhagen that the Danish government wouldn't interfere if Greenland decided they wanted to be independent. For decades there has been a movement towards greater autonomy for Greenland. The current legislative framework gives the Greenlandic government the authority to take over responsibility for all types of policy except foreign affairs and the military. I doubt Washington would give better terms for independence.
I also doubt that the yanks would want to give the peoples of Panama, Greenland and Canada full political rights. With America being so insanely right-wing as it is, the population of the new territories would be radical leftists within the yank political spectrum.
It would be just like the statehood of Hawaii. Fair game for capitalists while the locals are slowly pushed out.
That’s why they have to start petition for the statehood now instead of ending up like the EU, who has accepted the fate of becoming another Puerto Rico without resistance.
Being able to travel to mainland United States to work is still better for the ordinary people instead of being without citizenship while having their economy swallowed by the US empire, like what is happening to the Europeans right now. They can’t just leave Europe and move to America without petitioning for an immigration visa, but if they become a US state, they can move freely to the US for work.
This might have had some persuasive power back in the 1950s when there still was an American dream for certain workers. But today giving up healthcare in return for the opportunity to enjoy the marvels of the American labour market would be batshit insane.
Things are going to be shittier in Europe due to American exploitation, including the welfare state, but that doesn't mean they're not going to be any better in Burgerland.
And, more importantly, the people's of Canada, Panada and Greenland do not want to be Americans. They know that it would make things worse for them.
No.
It might be better for their bourgeois strata but it would be detrimental to their working classes. The US would subsume these countries the same way West Germany subsumed the GDR by ravaging what's there and investing nothing in return.
Also they all have some public healthcare at least.
The US can end the economic sovereignty of these countries at any moment just as easily as it ended Europe’s, and they will happily accept the outcome just like the entire Europe Union happily welcomed the destruction of their energy infrastructure by the US empire.
It’s better for both sides to give up the pretense and start petition for statehood instead of waiting for the illusion to be shattered. A statehood is still better than being a colony with no political rights at all. At least the people have citizenship and the legal status to travel to mainland United States to work.