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[–] [email protected] 35 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

Canada, Panama and colonial Greenland are obviously not utopian societies but becoming part of the dysfunctional American empire world be detrimental to their populations. I don't know about Panama but Canada and Greenland has public healthcare. Losing that would be a major setback for ordinary people.

And in the case of Panama and Greenland their population is not considered white and they would be treated as second-rate citizens in their own country. Greenland suffers a similar situation currently, being a Danish colony, but at least there is an understanding between Nuuk and Copenhagen that the Danish government wouldn't interfere if Greenland decided they wanted to be independent. For decades there has been a movement towards greater autonomy for Greenland. The current legislative framework gives the Greenlandic government the authority to take over responsibility for all types of policy except foreign affairs and the military. I doubt Washington would give better terms for independence.

I also doubt that the yanks would want to give the peoples of Panama, Greenland and Canada full political rights. With America being so insanely right-wing as it is, the population of the new territories would be radical leftists within the yank political spectrum.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 20 hours ago

It would be just like the statehood of Hawaii. Fair game for capitalists while the locals are slowly pushed out.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

That’s why they have to start petition for the statehood now instead of ending up like the EU, who has accepted the fate of becoming another Puerto Rico without resistance.

Being able to travel to mainland United States to work is still better for the ordinary people instead of being without citizenship while having their economy swallowed by the US empire, like what is happening to the Europeans right now. They can’t just leave Europe and move to America without petitioning for an immigration visa, but if they become a US state, they can move freely to the US for work.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 17 hours ago

This might have had some persuasive power back in the 1950s when there still was an American dream for certain workers. But today giving up healthcare in return for the opportunity to enjoy the marvels of the American labour market would be batshit insane.

Things are going to be shittier in Europe due to American exploitation, including the welfare state, but that doesn't mean they're not going to be any better in Burgerland.

And, more importantly, the people's of Canada, Panada and Greenland do not want to be Americans. They know that it would make things worse for them.