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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago

Big fan, can you comment on "gooning"?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'd point my smartphone at him and say "I'm going to shoot you with this cybergun if you don't write Das Kapital for the natural economy".

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"Was der fuck ist 'cyber'?"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

I turn on the flashlight

That's cyber, motherfucker. You want me to set it to kill instead of stun?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What natural economy?

Also, I'd say "Das Kapital Volumen Drei und Vier. Beenden es"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Labour is consciously transforming one thing into another. Our species-being or human nature is being able to envision the tool before we make it, and that process was understood to be uniquely human in Marx's time while we now halfway assign it to other intelligent animals.

Marx's underlying idea, his most important in my opinion because it's the root of ecology, is metabolism. Metabolism is the universal natural function of transforming one thing into another. The squirrel, bee, and river all exist through their metabolic functions and the dialectical relationship that organism forms with its environment. They all need a certain amount of A to produce B for the consumption of the higher trophic level. What environmentalism is missing is a hard materialist analysis of the value of that work. We need all of those components of an ecosystem to have a sense of metabolic stability in order for society to exist on top of it, and introducing a metabolic rift between what we demand of nature and what it can produce is the original sin which capitalism sends into overdrive.

My big criticism of Marx as a Marxist is that he predated ecology by a century but all of those ideas are scattered throughout other works. Engels went on to write The Dialectics of Nature which is flawed, but Marx never got around to the thing that would have given us a theoretical answer to climate change 40 years or so before the first observations of it. Marx was the direct inspiration for the bionomics that became ecology, but if he had given a really thorough dissection of how an ecosystem functions economically then I think he could have skipped ahead to something approximating Carson's Silent Spring in the 1960s. That'd be the work I could give to anyone as the most relevant thing to them.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago

Holy shit you’re like 200 years old how are you still alive?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago

“It’s your round Karl, let’s get lit”

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

Meme review time marx-doomer

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

I wouldn't say a single word to him. I would listen. That's what no one else did.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT YOU TELL ME YOUR OPINIONS ON STEVEN UNIVERSE DISCOURSE gunpoint rage-cry

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

"Hi Karl how's it going?"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

"Hey man, big fan of linen. Thanks for the good times."

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

can I get you anything to eat sweetie? some coffee?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

"Now watch this drive"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

I would slay zombie Marx, whose soul still lies in the celestial plane while his body rots and yet moves unbidden by nature, in the name of the great Lathander

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Are we talking about this guy: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx_Dormoy ? He seems pretty cool, I don't think I could summon the courage to talk to him. If he was alive today then that would mean that he survived his house being bombed, so that would make an interesting topic of conversation. Maybe there is something we could learn from this Marx guy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

lead us oh lord! you point, i kill!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Nothing. I'd shove a tab of acid in his mouth and watch the fun.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

bruh you gotta finish das kapital, sequels and reboots are huge now

Death to America

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

I second this motion

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Oh, we all love this contemporary of yours, Stirner, now. Do you know him?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Have you ever heard Harpo talk?