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God am I freaking tired of doomsday plots and imposters in charge of the federation and all of that. I watch Trek because I don't want to see real life there.

Ffs, bring back the best of the Federation. The ones who don't hate each other, who protect the innocent, who fight for what's right, and it's been institutionalized and at a societal level. I want to see some goddamn utopia shows, I want to believe we can turn this sinking ship around, not be constantly reminded how fucked everything is.

Curious though, what would that be like?

You'd have: • A much friendlier Klingon Empire • The Romulans might be nicer or might not(depending on if they eventually out the whole plot that dragged them into the war) • The Borg would be Pissed over the transwarp hub loss, and might be worried about a joint Dominion/Federation teamup. • The Ferengi are adapting to be nicer and likely more federation friendly within DS9 • The Cardassians would be rebuilding still, but wouldn't be a match for a militarized Voyager+DS9 Starfleet.

Problems start with the two best plot villains being either the Borg or the Romulans and both have been done to Death in movies.

Then that they "modernized" the ship interiors for both SNW and Picard, which would have been a great thing to do with a 100 year jump past TNG/DS9/Voyager.

Discovery had a neat hook once they jumped into the future and it dealt with a Federation that lost warp, but frankly Battletech, Wh40k and Traveller all called and they want their main space travel hook back.

I think it's just time to hang up the hat. There's obviously nobody left in Hollywood who understands what Star Trek actually is, so they should just stop making them.

No we don't need to move on from TNG and TOS we need more of it, and Strange New Worlds proved it. Also that kind of stuff is exactly what you demand when you're talking about philosophy and better version of humanity.

Too much gritty drama, not enough humour, not enough not taking yourself too damn seriously all the fucking time so when you have some grit to tell it actually hits. Too much fucking nauseating camera movement. Stop copying your pacing from soap operas. Going full Orville would be too much (though the later seasons toned it down) for the main live-action series, but did you know Lower Decks is 100% canon?

As to movies in particular: Make them extensions of the series, again, long (semi-)off-season-arc episode with big budget. There's never been a movie Garak, and that's a problem. Pick up good non-Trek scripts and adapt them to the setting, say, what would Arrival look like if it was Trek?

Maybe evil enterprise in mirror darkly universe going around doing cool Byzantine stuff

Yeah, it isn't tainted because of that, I can tell you.

Dethroned? You rate First Contact above TOS films?

If they had just set SNW on a new ship post-DS9 I would be happy.

Keep the cast, change the character names, put it on a new ship. Enough with the nostalgia-milking already!

Viewers would rather watch things explode than be forced to think about anything.

More to the point, it's an ensemble show about a pseudo-military ship's crew. Since when has it ever been necessary to explain crew changes beyond "personnel got reassigned?"

Which is why they remade it twice, and fucked it up both times.

Oh, are we just pretending Into Darkness doesn’t exist?

As a casual star trek fan, beyond was my favorite of the three. The first one was enjoyable and I didn't really like the second one. But I thought the third one was a lot of fun and had more memorable moments than the rest