I remember reading about major police fuck ups in 2000 when I was first really getting online. It never gets easier to look at these miserable excuses of policing. Best part is that the officer involved in this shooting was born at roughly the same time I became aware of this shit.
THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
There's no better place to be a murdering son of a bitch than one's local police force. And that's a hundred fold now that's it's going to be the new Gestapo
Attacking the wrong person aside, opening fire during a knife attack (not directed towards cops) seems like a huge overreaction.
Also, person in undies vs a person in a hoodie and jacket. Who looks like they just got woken up out of bed vs was outside a moment ago.
Shoot first, investigate ourselves later. The lesson here is don't call the police? There's a good chance that you'll overpower the attacker than be rescued by undertrained police.
I always laughed at these house signs that say: we don't call 911 and two revolvers. Now i think they are actually right, just for the wrong reasons.
In 2025 you have to protect yourself from police in America. They could come to the wrong door and bust in and try to kill you. You have a right to defend your life and that includes killing a police officer.
The next president has already said he's going to give them blanket immunity. That means cops can do anything they want now
Forget about 911, buy a gun and train often. The police will not only not protect you, they will kill you even if you are innocent
Sadly this is the reality of it, he was targeted simply because he was a man attacked by a woman and society is often as misandrist as it is misogynistic.
Misandry is “in” now
Hating men is okay and if you point it out you're an abusive rapist.
We shouldn't judge groups of people based on the actions of a minority, unless it's men.
"After Brandon Durham falls to the floor the officer shoots him five more times."
Sounds like a fucking execution.
When seconds matter... The cops are minutes away
He would've been better off if they were hours away!
Guy had some violent criminals outside his house trying to break in and hurt him and his family. Calls the cops. Now he's got an extra violent criminal with a gun who breaks into his house and kills him. Why does anyone call the cops anymore???
What else do you do? I get the point but who else deals with that if you can't? At a certain point you have to roll those dice right?
Wouldn't you rather kill a cop than die by cop?
Anyone busting down my door is getting 600 rounds per minute from a 120 round magazine. I don't give a fuck who they are. My finger will continue to wiggle until there are no rounds left. They can always identify them by their badge or their fingerprints
Police are not here to protect you, they are here to protect the property of the wealthy. They will kill you without a second thought
Arm the left and Make Nazis Afraid Again.
You separate and control both people. You use your police h2h training to deescalate the situation, soak them both in pepper spray or taze them both while you sort out the facts. You get stabbed doing your duty to serve and protect civilians because you knew that is what you signed up for and why police are heroes.......
Oh wait.......
But a gun, learn to use it, call a lawyer then cops. Or gamble on the cops and going fisticuffs with a knife like this poor guy did.
a bunch of guys breaking into your house and you with one gun will probably have the same outcome
especially if you store it safely, locked in a safe, unloaded, ammo separate
Nice thing about not having children is you can leave your gun loaded with a round in the chamber.
Just flip it to fire and pull the trigger.
Anyone not welcome will be put down immediately
a bunch of guys breaking into your house and you with one gun
Welcome to the argument for standard capacity magazines.
He feel victim to one of the classic blunders.
Then store it safely, fully loaded, with one in the chamber.
I thought that you are supposed to leave the chamber empty, preventing accidental discharge?
Fair question. Not pulling the trigger prevents accidental discharge.
Having one in chamber saves time. It's one less thing to do in a stressful situation when every millisecond counts. If it's got a safety, train with it engaged and flip it off as part of any exercise.
Typical day on the job for police then
Life is cheap in the USA.
Person that looks like they were just outside, with crime hoodie and all? Probably not the suspect. Some guy half naked in his evening wear? POW POW POW!!!
Shit like this will be the police's downfall, because once the people don't trust you, you're not a policie force, but civilian suppression force.
you’re not a policie force, but civilian suppression force.
Corporate has asked you to describe the difference between these two pictures.
Dipshit probably on paid leave
He won't even get that. They'll play it off like he had to make a call before the knife killed someone and that it's unfortunate the homeowner got shot. Even though you can clearly see the knife is in her hand....
The police don't do anything wrong this was proven when they investigated themselves....