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[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 days ago (4 children)

0 emissions

FYI: Horses fart and methane is a greenhouse gas more potent than carbon dioxide.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

I'm also intrigued by the "costs $1000 and $750/year to maintain" claim, as the horse people I know spend closer to 20x that.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Humans also fart methane, is that a reason not to ride them?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

If your ride consents to that, just pug the hole.

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[–] [email protected] 221 points 4 days ago (8 children)

750 a year? Wtf is this retard smoking. Cost for land, hay storage, water, vet, and farrier. Human time cost to feed them twice a day, get rid of or spread the shit. Blanket, saddle, bridle. You're looking at a few thousand a year minus the time sink.

[–] [email protected] 95 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

This article says 8 to 11k yearly. https://horserookie.com/average-horse-cost-by-state/

While cost of owning a car is between 3k and 9k yearly according to https://www.move.org/average-cost-owning-a-car/.

I would have thought that a horse would be much more expensive, like 10 times a car cost.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Interesting, I recall a colleague in UK mention that it was costing her up to 20k a year. That was her max but not always/everywhere - would have been almost 30k USD at the time, so it sounds considerably cheaper in US but obviously a lot more land available and affordable

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Almost all of those problems are solved by your local park.

Vet costs can be reduced by the skillfull application of healing stones.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago

horse sick? get a new one

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Yep. Once upon a time, you had to be very wealthy to own a car.

Now it's horses.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 days ago (2 children)

$750 a year to maintain health

Lol

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

$750/month if you have to stable it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

Yeah, this might be 750 dollars worth of bottom of the barrel, wholesale, oats needed to give the average horse enough calories to survive.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 days ago (7 children)

You will get an OWI if you ride a horse drunk.

Source: I know a guy who trained his horse to ride from the bar to his house on its own. Cops still pulled him over because he was sleeping on the horse.

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 4 days ago (22 children)

Zero emissions? I know people find it ha ha funny, but farts legitimately contain methane and other green house gassses.

Cows for example are a large contributor of GHG

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 days ago (2 children)

plus if we had as many horses as we did cars we would be living in a horse shit apocalypse.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Compress into brick, then build tower. Now you also have tower.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Where is this guy getting a horse for $1,000 from?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I mean if you want any old horse and can transport it you can often get them for free. They're like pianos

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

you can often get them for free

The maintenance cost of a "free" horse is anything but

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Oh I'm not discounting that. Free pianos don't tend to be cheap either to get tuned, and that's if you can even tune them in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

does a horse not transport itself ?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Not in a way amenable to seal the deal a few cities across, unless you get a one way ride up there and you’re prepared to camp/hotel a few nights on the way back

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago (5 children)

That is a shockingly cheap horse.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Ignoring lack of parking, slow travel and waste disposal, it's more like 3-6k if you already live on a farm. 5-10k if you board it with someone, and you'll likely need a car to get you to the stables.

A bicycle however...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

Believe it or not, riding a horse while drunk is also an offense in many places.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Except you can't drink and ride a bike in many areas. I doubt most cops would enforce it though.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don’t think the horse pill means what anon thinks it means…

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I feel hay and grass may end up more expensive than anon thinks... For grass, you need a big place where your horse can graze. Anon either is such a big landowner or intends to rent such land, but it won't be cheap. Then the hay for when the horse is kept indoors... Gotta be a lot of hay. And the means of bringing and storing the hay may be of non-negligible price. Then there are vet bills, because horses can get sick or injured...

I knew someone who owned horses long ago. Well, more like someone whose parents owned horses since we were kids. They even had a coach that these horses could pull. But they didn't use it as a means of transportation unless just doing a simple roundtrip for leisure, and there's a simple reason for that: You can't leave your horse for hours on a parking spot. You can tie it up somewhere maybe, but not for a long time, there aren't many places fit for leaving horses nowadays.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 days ago (1 children)

These prices are ridiculously incorrect, but we can dream and strive to build a horsepilled world.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I'd feel bad about leaving them tied to a tree while I'm at work, so I'd probably just go with a bike which is fueled by snacks and doesn't even shit!

[email protected] ftw

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 4 days ago (8 children)

From what little I know about horses, almost all your time is spent trying to make sure they don't kill themselves. I can leave my vechile outside in the cold for weeks at a time and not have to think about it.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 days ago

False - you can get a DUI on a horse (in some states).

[–] [email protected] 55 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Horses can't be beat in the post-apocalypse for speed, but for most other things you probably want a donkey or mule. Far sturdier, easier to handle, can eat anything, and has no regard for wolves.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (12 children)

As long as there's roads or smooth paths left, an ordinary person can do 200 km in a day on a bicycle. A quick search tells me that specifically trained horses can do 160 km in an endurance race. Sure a horse would probably be the fastest in a sprint, but a bicycle has the best travel speed.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What constitutes reliable is a matter of opinion I suppose, but the first concrete statement of fact:

0 emissions

Wrong, right out of the gate.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago

I'm just here to appreciate horseface gigachad, nei-ei-ei-ei-eighhhhh 😆

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Where the fuck you store it though? A shitty car you can park anywhere, a horse is gonna take some space. Especially for us poor fucks where the temperature drops below freezing for part of the year. Car just maybe not gonna start today, a horse might not start ever again.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Consider horse a room mate. Finally someone to talk to.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago (7 children)

The lowest emission vehicle you can own is an electric bike.*

Will cost 1–4k and way less than $750 annually in maintenance. Can get a road-only one or one capable of going off-road. Does not require insurance or licensing. Can't legally drink and ride, but you're very unlikely to get caught if you do, and unlike drink driving the risk is overwhelmingly only to yourself.

Keeps you fit and healthy by being active in your daily life.

* yes, lower even than an analogue bike, because the electric motor is more carbon efficient than human muscle power which requires eating more.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Faster travel > everything else

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