there's no communities for my niche interests!!!

more like "i want a ready-made community where other people already putting effort into posting cool and intersting stuff, and all I want to do is sit on my ass and shower posts generously with """muh upvotes™""""

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[–] 182 points 2 years ago (14 children)

As a man whose started 7 different communities I'd like to defend those people saying, if you don't immediately get a good response it starts feeling like screaming into the void.

I started a meme community !aneurysmposting@sopuli.xyz and it immediately took off and is doing well. On the other hand other my worst community got 2-3 people making one or two comments after a month of 2 posts everyday.

Meme communities do well. Niche communities require lots of people finding it and being active.

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  • [–] 51 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    But even aneurysmposting, the most successful wouldn't survive if I wasn't regularly posting. Partially bc people just forget a community exists. I end up posting in the same 10-15 communities since I can't think of relevant communities to post in; even if they exist very often.

    I enjoy running aneurysmposting and !inmymind@lemmy.dbzer0.com since there only I can post and there is no pressure. It basically is like posting to local, but I have an archive if everything I post.

    Similarly !shortstories@literature.cafe is another community I made and enjoy posting on, but my posts are like 50% of that instance and 80% of that community. But its a great community otherwise.

    The other 4 have been different levels of disappointing.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Hey fam, go to !fedigrow@lemm.ee and check out the weekly "How are you doing with your communities?" post if you haven't already. It's like a support group for people keeping niche communities alive.

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  • [–] [S] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I feel you as I too struggled to keep small community afloat and alive. And it sometimes does feel like you are screaming in to the void. I was kinda fortunate in a sense that my community got atleast some trafficin votes/comments and that motivated me to stay and post.

    My point is that it's always better to try to do something (even if it fails) than just whine about it.

    I also want to salute you (and people like you), we are all here in part because you take time of your day to find\make and post stuff. Even if in the moment it doesen't get noticed or feels like it's in vain, know that it is never for nothing - you're making the hour\day or even week of 100s of people better

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    And still, the community I started ( !dontdeadopeninside@lemmy.ohaa.xyz ) somewhat exists alongside it. Although Im afraid you've won.

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    [–] 125 points 2 years ago (21 children)

    This is kind of bullshit. On a big platform, like Reddit, where there are orders of magnitude more users, the likelihood is that there are a good number of people interested in whatever niche topic you want. That's a draw for a lot of people. I left Reddit for Lemmy for good, but we're just not up to that kind of user base.

    And it's not zero effort to get a community going and keep it active, especially with a small user base. It's perfectly reasonable for someone to want a place that discusses their niche interest without wanting to be responsible for running that place. It doesn't make them bad or lazy.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Especially if you didn't have a lot of spare time. With an active community you can just dip into discussions when you have the time. With a community you're trying to establish yourself you absolutely have to provide a steady stream of content until it (hopefully) takes off.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago* (8 children)

    You could always go one level up. Like instead of a crochet community and a knitting community you could have a yarn community that incorporates all types of weaving with yarn.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    For sure, though that really doesn't solve the problem. If I'm really into sports-themed shot glasses, making a post in a community for drinking ware, or for sports merchandise, isn't going to mean I get more content about sports shot glasses, and it doesn't increase the number of people on the site who have something to say about them. On a platform with millions of users, there might be enough other people with the same interest to generate a critical mass of content.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Yeah but everyone seems to be expecting Lemmy to just turn into the high point of Reddit. Reddit wasn't built in a day and neither will Lemmy be built in a day.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Completely agree. I personally I'm fine with the trade-off I made. There's even some benefits to a smaller site. I remember on Reddit there were lots of times I didn't make a comment, even when I had something to say, because there were already literally thousands of comments, some with thousands of upvotes, and I figured anything I said would be lost in the din. Here, if you've got something to say, it's very likely to be seen.

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    [–] 82 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    The problem isn't that they won't create them, there's insufficient biomass to populate them.

    If I want to talk about a 5-year-old video game with myself, I'll just open Notepad.

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    [–] 80 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    "Why complain about lacking a community when you can create your own ghost town"

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    [–] 69 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    I did. There's almost zero engagement. My most popular thread is a meta narrative about me being in there talking to myself. There were at least two other attempts that are even more inactive. Not enough of y'all are into synthesizers.

    https://lemm.ee/c/synthesizers

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    [–] 51 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I've moderated communities before. No thanks.

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Making the community doesn't mean it has any activity. There's tons of communities already made for a bunch of niche topics. None of them are being posted in. There's also communities that aren't niches that also lack activity.

    !eldenring@lemmy.world only has about 3 active users, not including myself. The DLC is still pretty new and it's a massively popular game.

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    [–] 37 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    I wish instead that people would post in the general communities first, then spin off into a new community if there is interest.

    Like, we don't need a whole community for the new Dragon Age game or whatever, but we do have a games community that would benefit from the post. Then if there are 20 Dragon Age posts every day it could obviously support it's own community.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    This. All of us Reddit Refugees (me included) fucked up when we arrived and put the cart before the horse. Lemmy is like a small town; you may simply not get all the specific communities you want, but there's probably somebody with a similar enough interest that they'll talk to you about the stuff you like, and they probably have things that you would like to talk about if you saw it. Higher-level categories should do fine unless and until a certain type of content starts to annoy other users by its sheer prevalence.

    As someone else said, Lemmy is the niche community.

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    [–] 36 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Maybe the answer is a better search engine to find the communities.

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    whining about whining. classic!

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

    Can't wait for 0 people to join my Haibane Renmei community that I don't have the experience or patience to mod, nor the understanding of the source material to justify creating it in the first place

    ETA: I just searched, and found out one person already has made a Haibane Renmei community. It has one subscriber, the person who made it, who has been inactive since 2022. There are some things that simply can't be replicated in a smaller platform.

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    [–] 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Going against the post's spirit, but...If you're not finding a community for your interests (or only finding abandoned/inactive ones), and don't want to create one (or try to get existing ones going), you're welcome over in !general@lemmy.world. Post about whatever, find likeminded folks, then if ya think there's enough of ya, you can make a separate community without it being one person posting into a void.

    Also there's !justpost@lemmy.world. Similar vibes.

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    [–] 23 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    That one comment on the asklemmy post radicalised my man.

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    [–] 23 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Who gonna operate the sinkpissers community

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

    During the initial mass migration from Reddit I got the impression a lot of people were starting communities on Lemmy that had been successful on Reddit but put no effort into them. I'll bet there is a statistic yet to be figured out that says you need a million platform members before you can have enough members to sustain a niche community like c/gothcountry.

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    [–] 21 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    No one is gonna engage lol

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Sure man, lemme just real quick create a whole ass community, spend countless hours striving to attract people and moderate it when these guys try to post some horrifying shit... all that to find the location of the one missing collectible from the game that I'm currently trying to complete.

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    The thing is, communities need people. People who post in the community. Most new communities get a few members, a handful of posts, and then just die.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Counterpoint: Sometimes you can kickstart a community that you want to see just by consistently posting content. !science_memes@mander.xyz is my favourite example -- it was essentially one person who created that entire community (and it's since been diversifying somewhat -- at least there's traction in the comments).

    But to reinforce your point: I did !spacemusic@lemmy.ca and tried to do the same thing, but it sort of petered out. But it's way way more niche.

    Rome wasn't built in a day. Just engage with the content you like and build some places for content you'd like to see.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    Lemmy is my niche community

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    communities require people. if ur the only one posting its not a community

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    [–] 15 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    The problem is that the niche community exist. In fact it probably exists several times, one in each instance with a small number of followers. Which makes really hard to go and decide in which community you want to invest.

    It's one fundamental problem of federative systems and to be solved some of the federal nature need to be partially given away, but I think is necessary. I propose two solutions:

    1. Automatic merging of communities. All communities with the same name within a federation are de facto replicated. So a post in any community just replicate in all. It will make it seem like there's only one community.

    2 Discourage. Everytime you try to create a community that already exists in other instance a pop up appears that encourage you to just go to the other community. For already duplicated communities messages are sent to concentrate in the biggest one.

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    [–] 12 points 2 years ago*

    Like you've been shown that there's no simple answer over and over again here, but one problem I face hasn't been mentioned. What if I want to subscribe to communities that I can't participate in? Not every community is about hobbies, some is people talking about their life which is totally unlike mine and I like to read that. One I always pick as an example is r/arrangedmarriage. I love(d) reading that subreddit to explore a world that is so foreign to me. I'm a white woman from Europe as far removed from marriage as one could be on this earth. Why should someone follow an c/arrangedmarriage I of all people created and mod? Not everyone joins niche communities because they are directly relevant to their life.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago*

    "Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder, but don't nobody wanna lift no heavy-ass weights."

    Ronnie Coleman

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Can recommend. Sometimes it does really well, sometimes it doesn't. Its worth a try anytime anyways

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