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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

For context:

This is a MoG post about a hexbear comment from 7 months ago complaining about the evocation of Charlie Hebdo against the french

A top comment asks "why so mad against french?", and the OP (the main mod and poster of MoG) suggests it's because we "hate france's freedom of speech and their 'anti-islam stance'". Declines to share a link or context to the comment

Out of curiosity I went looking for the context to that comment, and discovered that it was in reaction to a wildly Islamophobic cartoon making a joke about Gazan's starving during the month of ramadan [linky] [CW: Racism, Islamophobia, genocide]:

The mod then goes to great length to avoid commenting on the racist context of the post, as well as any definitive statement acknowledging the Palestinian Genocide or the culpability of Israel and the IOF. Tries to whatabout China, Russia, and Iran

Turns out libs actually do practice critical support, but instead of critically supporting AES projects they support any state crusading against muslims.

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[-] [email protected] 52 points 8 months ago

Racist magazine spends decades screaming slurs and inciting race hatred. Racist magazine gets attacked by people from the group they were inciting race hatred against. Libs expect me to care. Very strange situation.

[-] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago

Ooof, and the hits just keep on coming

[-] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago

the notion that Gazans are being genocided as retribution for their "universal religious fundamentalism" is fucking asinine, not least because the genocidaires are engaged in their own explicitly ethnotheocratic state project

[-] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

I definitely misread their statement, but the reality of what they are saying is so much more depraved than what I assumed that I am completely overcome with disgust.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

I am absolutely losing my mind

[-] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

arguing with fascists tends to have that effect on the reasonable unfortunately

[-] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago

Holy shit imagine actually typing "they dislike them for their anti Muslim sentiment, it doesn't make sense"

"Yea I dont get it they don't like us just because we're bigots, doesn't make any sense."

[-] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago

"They hate us for our freedom"

oooaaaaaaauhhh

[-] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago

I feel less bad about the sweeping generalizations I made about the french in my rant in the mod matrix channel the other day now.

[-] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago

The French "auteurs" are categorically not okay either. libertarian-alert

[-] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

To be clear, it's not technically pedophi—

stalin-gun-1stalin-gun-2

[-] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I had a struggle session with my partner about why I seem to have such a bias against the French as that sort of bias is out of character for me and I couldn't figure it out.

Eventually I realized it's the colonialism and hateful xenophobia against Muslims / anyone less than lily white. When I explained that was why, they apologized and became a hater with mW.

[-] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago

You dislike the French because of their racist cartoons.

I dislike the French because of their horrific treatment of the Vietnamese.

We are not the… okay actually that’s pretty much a 1:1.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

Before I went looking for the context I had a few guesses about what the comment was in response to, and honestly it could have been half a dozen other ones but given it was goat I figured it was probably Gaza/Palestine/Islam related

[-] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago

goat is terrible, I remember calling them out when the MeanwhileOnGrad profile picture was a racist Xi/Winnie the Pooh caricature and they had endless apologism. We should never refederate with sh.itjust.works.

[-] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago

I found these today when I skimmed their post history:

Nothing justifies violence.

No context justifies calls for violence.

I am just astounded by this… nothing justifies violence? Not even the Native Americans’ resistance to colonialism? The Ethiopians’ resistance to Fascism? The Jewish resistance to the Axis? Those were all unjustified?

[-] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Anytime somebody says that there's never an excuse for violence you should just immeidatly say "give me your wallet or ill kick your ass" and then just keep saying that and calling them a hypocrite if they don't just give it to you.

"There's never an excuse for violence" is just something that sounds good to people who have never thought about anything.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

I honestly don't think he sees how absurd that insistence is, or else is extremely mindful of his own language to avoid contradicting his statements of non-violence.

He clearly has no problem with violence against Hamas/Hezbollah/Iran/Russia/China/anyOtherWesternBoogyman, but he's careful never to outright say it. Whenever he gets close he deflects by whatabouting Iran or Russia or China.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

If .world is just a reddit clone .works is the refugees from all the shitty banned subs.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago
[-] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I don't have a clue.

clueless

they're right about one thing

[-] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You know what, goat, let's switch to a different topic

Ever hearda Huey Lewis and the news? huey-lewis

[-] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago

i could be angry with the french for a different colonial project every day of the week

[-] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago
[-] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

Once I found out about the debts they imposed on Haiti after the revolution, I decided that I could never forgive them.

That's not the only thing, but it was my anti-france breaking point.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago

7 months old

Must be a slow day.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago

The French govt.’s means of harassing antifascists, its colonizations in Afrasia along with the Americas, its agreements with Fascist Italy, agreements with the Third Reich, its businessmen’s willing collaboration with the Axis, its willingness to commit antisemitic atrocities, the continuation of Axis elements post‐1945, its present negligence towards refugees (of colour), its complicity in supporting the Zionist entity: all of these phenomena make somebody’s disdain for France slightly easier to understand. The fact that many ordinary French adults also voted for the alt‐right makes the hatred a little easier to understand as well.

The point here is not to justify Francomisia. Whatever one thinks of it, one must first understand it in order to affect it. There are plenty of ways that French adults can reduce Francomisia without either resorting to self‐harm or scolding those who loathe them.

Myself, I can agree that white‐bashing statements like ‘UNLIMITED GENOCIDE ON HONKIES NOW’ do become depressing after reading or hearing them so many times, but ultimately it’s just a mouse screaming into a void: it is rare for anybody to assault somebody else for being a white gentile, and even when it does occasionally happen the authorities tend to be extremely unforgiving. So I have bigger things to worry about. I’m part French myself (whoop‐de‐doo) and I tend to shrug off anti‐French remarks since I’m already depressed. Even if somebody hating whites really agitated me, I don’t see how scolding or mocking that person would fix anything.

On a minor note, I think that the original poster misspelt the title. France is not ‘pro‐Islam’.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

On a minor note, I think that the original poster misspelt the title. France is not ‘pro‐Islam’.

Thank you comrade, I fixed it (kinda)

[-] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Goat in this case stands for genocidaire of all time

[-] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

Of all the things to dislike the french over, their fries are not one of them... Or their toast.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago
[-] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Or Daft Punk

[-] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Their breads/food in general maybe minus frogs and snails

[-] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I block a couple Zionist debate perverts, some dude who posted almost all RFEL/RFA/VOA, and comms like NCD on my general Lemmy account, but I don’t block goat and their comm because it’s mostly just funny watching them froth.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

I have to say, I am much less amused by it now than I was even 8 hours ago.

When I get sucked into these vortexes by the end I am praying for the ban-hammer to put an end to my misery. I think he's in Australia or New Zealand or something, so by the time he's back up and active i'm starting to get to the shame and regret part of my self destruction cycle.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Why would I not hate the fr#nch? What good have the fuckers ever done? A genocide state that was almost as bad as the br'tish. disgost

[-] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Existentialism is pretty cool when you're 15. Until you realize it's every day real life. Don't know about sartre and camus' personal life though?

[-] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

I remember being rather lib about it. being against what happened to charlie hebdo. just like left leaning shitpost comic magazine I was reading. They related to charlie hebdo, not being liked by muslim conservatives like charlie hebdo and drawing comics just like them, and tried to defend charlie hebdo of how they are not racists and islamaphobic. They later found out they were indeed racist and islamaphobic, they comdemnded such thoughts. It is so disgusting. they proved they deserved what was coming for them

[-] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

Yea it's like if somebody threw a pipe bomd into one of those Draw Muhamed picture contests they have in Texas.

Incredibly good and based.

"Oh they attacked me just because I did everything I possibly could to piss them off for absolutely no reason apart from the fact I hate them"

Turnabouts fair play

[-] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Je suis ~~Charlie~~ un génocidaire. france-cool

[-] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

say-the-line-bart-1 Say the line Bart!

say-the-line-bart-2 Whataboutism

[-] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Whataboutism? What about deez nuts?

[-] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If they hate Muslims, assume they’re all terrorists and want to ethnically cleanse them. Then they’re not free speech. Simple as.

Speaking of which, if Muslims really are all that bad. Why do you celebrate when Christians act just as bad as you claim Muslims are?

[-] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Aw fuck, he caught me sleepin. I accidentally admitted that post-war USSR might have been influenced by more than just Salin's desire to do the Holomodor and he clapped me.

He was nice about it though, shook my hand and said GG, offered me to appeal his ruling in 48 hours.

Don't tell him I fully endorse violence against colonists, I wanna surprise him next time.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

What the hell, I'm famous now!

[-] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Just out of curiosity:

When you asked that question, did you really not know? And the followup: was goat's an acceptable explanation?

[-] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago
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