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You can repeat "US imperialism bad" as much as you want but learning the play by play is just absolutely mind blowing. Its always so much worse than you could initially imagine.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Blowback is a treasure. All three seasons merit multiple listens.

As to S3 If people in the us realized that we bombed North Korea to an extent that people were reduced to living in caves they might be a little more introspective on why they view us the way they do. Hence why Korea is the “forgotten war”

Also, Chairman Mao man. What a heart.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

That's what I've been telling folks, like it makes sense why no one talks about the korean war, because there's almost no way to white wash it past "NK crossed the line".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Americans have such an easygoing ignorance of the absolutely massive scale of anti-communist massacres that were going on in their zone of military occupation (me included prior to listening to S3). That's a critical piece of missing information that confuses their understanding of the motivations behind the invasion of the southern occupation zone.

What's less forgivable is the weird fetishization about the inviobility lines on a map. To the point of being willing to grind an entire people into dust to ensure that the line is respected.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

weird fetishization about the inviobility lines on a map.

The way people genuinely believe that "War" is something that only happens if you drive a tank across a survey line is infuriating. Just an absolute failure to even consider the possibility of realpolitik, of unconventional warfare, economic warfare. Like bruh if someone is pointing a nuclear gun at your head you do not have to wait for him to pull the trigger before you're allowed to respond.

Doubly so because so many people will excuse or outright endorse America's various campaigns of mass murder and desolation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One of the most effective American propaganda campaigns have been to convince Americans and Europeans that "war" is very specifically when you drive tanks across lines on a map.

Things that are definitely not war include:

  • Economic blockades
  • Airstrikes against life sustaining infrastructure
  • Airstrikes against civillians
  • Actual boots on the ground in the form of special forces
  • Actual full scale invasions of countries, as long as you sign the form that says "this is not a war"
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Police action" is the 20th century's "Lethal aid"

You know it's funny that libs want to sue gun companies for firearms murders, but don't seem to have the same energy for acknowledging that we're responsible for arming and training the Ukrainian armed forces.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

“Police action” was invented for Korea

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

More bombs were dropped on Korea than were dropped in the entirety of the WW2 pacific theater is a mind blowing stat. That shit doesn’t go away either. I’m sure they’re still dealing with soil poisoning, uxo, etc

Edit: yep

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

As soon as you learn what was going on in the South before the war started, it begins to make people think stuff like "Maybe they were justified in crossing the line"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And even after the US blew up literally all of their infrastructure, it still wasn't enough. McArthur wanted to nuke the DPRK and China. It's insane.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's an unbelievable miracle that the SAC and the insane Army generals were somehow kept in check and prevented from slinging nukes around. People have no idea how totally psychotically bloodthirsty they were.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Dr. Strangelove is only partially fictional.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

The Americans saw the holocaust and barely 5 years later they murdered a third of north koreans lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Honestly listening to blowback is a big part of the reason that I'm a ML now. It's just one outrageously evil decision after another made by the American government. I realized how propagandized I still am - how have I never heard of this stuff before?

We need to tear this empire down.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When you listen to this you also realize that the people that did this. They don't exist any more. They where extremely smart, evil operators who had long term plans.

Now America is just fail sons that can't plan a week ahead

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

IDK, they planned to stir up Ukraine at least 25 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Defense contractor stocks are surging.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And? American power is receding every day because of it.

More short term gains over long term visions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

NATO is also larger and more popular than ever before.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Season 1 was rough but season 3 multiple times I had to turn it off because I felt literally sick to my stomach

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Nearly brought me to tears on a few occasions. I like the more humorous style of Season 1, but I think I appreciate more the seriousness that they've developed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It's an easy thing to meme about, but after listening to Season 3 I'm fully behind this next sentence:

Uncritical support for the DPRK in its heroic struggle to liberate occupied Korea from the genocidal American empire.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

And you can tell libs all of this and they'll just shrug and say "Yeah, well, that's what happens during war. The North started it anyway, so what happened to them was their fault."

Source: personal experience

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah it's a brutal listen. I always think my hatred of :amerikkka: has hit it's peak, but then I find there's room for more

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For any comrade here who hasn't heard the US's crimes against the Korean people laid bare,

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1WSE-G3x7QBc9ZFmh20AFGn5Nq7oBsJYN

Here’s a google drive with all of season 3 of Blowback, including the bonus episodes. Enjoy, spread it around, and most of all, uncritical support to the DPRK in it’s heroic struggle to rid occupied Korea of the genocidal US Empire :kim-salute:

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Oh sweet, (I am about to experience pain) new bike ride listen! (Death to america)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Dismantling the American empire is a must for a better future. Blowback shows me that America is doing empire shit on the regular. Plainly and professionally they are doing empire on a regular basis in these larger institutions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

My Dad is going through it right now. He told me DPRK was justified going in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

His Grandpa was in charge of some military police or something in the war and he is legit just like "Holy shit, my Grandpa was evil".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

that takes a lot of introspection, frankly most people are ego driven to the point where they can't actually make that assertion

dad is cooler by the minute

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Mine said the same. Blowback is an amazing way to radicalize dads

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i think even though we're getting further away from the events every day that the details are still lurid enough and present IRL that even a podcast as well made and sourced as this still actives peoples' i-heard-a-terrible-thing-brain-shutdown mechanism.

You can repeat “US imperialism bad” as much as you want but learning the play by play is just absolutely mind blowing. Its always so much worse than you could initially imagine.

it's barbaric. Nearly beyond description

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I read Jakarta Method a couple years ago and talking about any single part of the book to people had them shutdown almost immediately.

Its just so fucking heavy. All I can do is drop a bit here or there, "The airforce bombed the north so completely they ran out of targets", "MacArthur had to have his command of nukes taken away in secret because Eisenhower thought he'd nuke china first if he got wind of them being taken away". Small facts sometimes get through but string more than one together and they cant handle it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

The whole chapter on the extermination was one of the most chilling things I have ever read.