Yes, we need the least functional, least capable, most failure prone, most brutalist vehicle possible. For community engagement.
EDIT: Also the most dangerous to both occupants and especially pedestrians.
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Its just like the cars they drew when they were in grade school.
With the very crayons they ate
You're talking as if they were ever able to graduate elementary school. The last time I saw police near an elementary school they were too scared to go in
community engagement
OK, I'll argue for the cops on this one. Just this once!
Community engagement is a real thing, gets people talking to cops who otherwise wouldn't. And that can be a positive experience all around.
For example; The Tulsa cops had a bitchin' (my 80s coming out) Corvette Stingray they showed off at the fair and every other chance they had. They had quite an audience gathered around, talking about the car at first and then asking questions about LE.
Idea being, it's not supposed to be a regular cruiser.
At least Stingrays look good, I don't think anyone's gonna be crowding around a cybertruck asking about it's specs
The YouTube channel Throttle House did a road trip with the cybertruck and they found that a lot of people actually were curious about it.
https://youtu.be/xNE-NyaYBcg?si=1CS2DxHsocEYc0b- (around 24:15)
For all it's flaws, you can't deny it looks different from all the other cars around, and most people aren't online enough to have an opinion about Musk and his bullshit, so to them it's just an interesting looking car.
a lot of people actually were curious about it.
I mean, sure, if a Cybertruck parked next to me somewhere, I'd probably take a close look and talk to the owner if they were around. I'm curious as much as anyone.
I don't have high expectations, and I'm not interested in owning one, but I'd still check it out.
But that's just because these cars are rare and novel. If anything, the questions I'd ask would be tilted towards figuring out just how shitty a car it is.
If the police are roaming around in them, they become less novel, and generally speaking people aren't usually interested in approaching random cops for conversations. People who socialize around cars usually aren't a big fan of the cops.
most people aren't online enough to have an opinion about Musk and his bullshit
I don't understand this point. Not only does Elon Musk's bullshit appear regularly on boomer tv stations, but you don't have to be very online to get exhausted with Musk content. It's not exactly niche content, he owns Twitter and is constantly attracting media attention with dumb stunts. You have to go out of your way to avoid hearing about him.
to them it's just an interesting looking car.
Anyone interested enough in cars to be influenced by what kind of car the cops drive, is someone likely informed enough to know that the Cybertruck is a misengineered lemon of a car.
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Buddy, every police department with a flashy sports car has the same story.
Let me know how many facts I get right about it:
- You learned about it as a teenager because the police came to your school to show it off.
- You lived in a mostly white suburban town.
- The car had anti-drug messages on it.
- The car was confiscated from a drug dealer, and transferred to the police department through civil asset forfeiture.
- The "drug dealer" was a Black man who was caught with some arbitrary amount of weed that forces baseless "intent to distribute" charges.
Your logic is sound
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I actually love brutalist architecture, but the Cybertruck is fucking nasty.
Yeah, brutalist and brutal are different. The cyber truck is a fucking stupid design that will hurt people far more than most vehicles (big dumb truck hoods not withstanding).
They aren’t even going to be able to sell them anywhere that has reasonable pedestrian safety laws. CA needs to pass some and kill the fucking thing, not give them to cops who already want to kill anyone who makes them nervous.
You're forgetting the most important part of the Cybertruck for those in the club: danger to pedestrians and non-Cybertruck civilians.
These the same kind of cops that vote solidly republican because they “hate government waste”?
It's not hypocrisy when you understand that "waste" is conservative for "helps the poor and/or minorities"
Also they have no shame. And, don’t know what hypocrisy means.
Do ya one better:
waste
something that doesn't benefit me or doesn't solely benefit me
—conservatives
Except that they love policies that only benefit rich people who don't care about them.
One man's garbage is another man's treasure.
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Just further proof of the idiocy of the average cop.
I've always thought these looked like they belong in a science-fiction b-movie. With the blue paint and police lights on top, they really look like they're from a RoboCop knock-off film.
I keep saying it looks like a fiberglass shell over an El Camino in an 80s post-apocalyptic film.
Then I found out about the movie Battletruck.
I almost think Elon is a fan...
Exactly! Don't forget about Megaweapon:
And Space Mutiny:
And apparently I'm five years late to the party:
Megaweapon! Megaweapon! Megaweapon!
Wouldn't criminals just wait to do crimes until it's raining?
The kind of person who actually wants a Cybertruck is definitely the kind of person who would be interesting in being a dickhead cop.
lol. We definitely need cop cars vulnerable to flipper zeros.
It doesn't surprise me that cops want something that is ugly and tacky and completely unnecessary. And they'll use a shit ton of taxpayer money to get it too.
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Part of being the police is advertising that there are police here, as a deterrent. This works well for that.
But another part is having fast, reliable vehicles able to out maneuver other cars on the road, to stop criminals after the fact. Not so good at that part.
Eh chases aren’t that common. Most of the time police won’t pursue because it puts the public in more danger. Especially populated areas.
Idk about reliability, but electric cars can have crazy speed and acceleration.
Sort of. EVs are very fast off the line, but generally very heavy. It might be good for handing out speeding tickets on a freeway, but a pursuit on surface streets would probably not go as well.
It's also a fairly tall EV. I bet if you slid into a curb or something, it'll roll like Peppy Hare.
Assuming the thing worked as advertised and they get a VERY steep discount, it might be a good idea?
Dubai police already have a cybertruck in service.
I'm guessing I'm not the only one who immediately heard Dead Kennedys upon reading that.
I'm also guessing the reasons are similar.
ngl I'd pour water on it.
How do you get away from a cyber truck? Spray it with water
Water balloons soon to be outlawed in California according to law enforcement source.
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Imagine the fingers that will be lost in the trunk and the heads that will be smacked into the steel roof until it just looks like the top of the doors are painted red.
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I still think fondly on the time I saw a burning cop car during the BLM protests. That was a good day; Grateful for the promise of more to come.
Yeah, but then the cops tracked that person down by what SHIRT they were wearing.
Amazing how good they are at solving crimes when they really apply themselves. Wouldn't it be wild if they did that for us?
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Im all for this.
Easier to elude the ~~police~~ capital defense force when they drive an attention seeking shitbox.
Fast acceleration and low fuel use might be desirable characteristics for a police vehicle, but that seems like a kind of pricey vehicle to be used in a role that one expects wear-and-tear in.
thinks
Sometimes police need to sit in their car idle for a long time. If the traction battery in the Cybertruck can be used to drive accessories (like, if there's an inverter or something driven by the traction battery), that might be useful. My understanding is that a number of EVs don't permit for that, though.
The Cybertruck explicitly advertises its 120/240vac inverter for 'job site tools' and other similar uses; then voids your warranty if you actually use it 'while stationary'.
Here's Louis Rossmann ranting about it for a bit.
The Cybertruck explicitly advertises its 120/240vac inverter for ‘job site tools’ and other similar uses
Oh, that's nice.
then voids your warranty if you actually use it ‘while stationary’.
That's not.
Hmm. I wonder if it's because adding extra charge/discharge cycles eats into battery life, which is probably a major bound on the car's life.
considers
Honestly, if EVs don't have a way to read charge/discharge count in a way that's hard-for-potential-resellers-to-fiddle-with the way odometers are, they probably should, and EV sales should probably list that number the way cars do mileage today, as a measurement of "wear".
EDIT: And at least for the battery, the warranty should probably be on the number of charge/discharge cycles, not on the distance traveled.
Oh, most definitely. Tracking battery wear should 100% be standard practice, and considered when buying/selling used EVs.
I just find it interesting that Tesla tells you to do something, then ultimately punishes you for doing so.
If you're not supposed/allowed to use it as a stationary power station; don't advertise that use case as a selling point.
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