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[–] [email protected] 88 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What would be amusing is if the Satanic Temple pushes to display their tenets as well, and it's absolutely a way better list that you can show to kids compared to religious scripture. I know this is their modus operandi so I hope they take action as well.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Their tenets are amazing.

THERE ARE SEVEN FUNDAMENTAL TENETS

I - One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.

II - The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.

III - One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.

IV - The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.

V - Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.

VI - People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.

VII - Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You got two sixes and no seven there :)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

One more six to go then :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

I know little about the satanic temple, but I’m curious how they got to “commandments” that are basically good by any standard out of a character that has historically been viewed as a purveyor of discord and evil deeds.

E: way to downvote, people. It was a legit question. I’m atheist so I don’t read anything about individual gods or their opposing deities unless it’s in a fantasy novel.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Because they don't actually worship satan, rather exist solely to highlight religious (especially christian, given them being US-based) hypocrisy. The name choice and theming around satanic symbols was probably done more to symbolize going against the reality of christianity than anything to do with christian myths about satan, as well as to specifically piss off those christians that go on about religious freedom but are against the satanic temple getting the same freedoms as the christian church.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

It relates to the myth of Satan in at least one way - he rebelled against god.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Lol the name choice was just to piss off conservatives. Nothing at all to do with Satan

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

The whole Satan thing is just a metaphor for acting against Christian Supremacism. They don’t actually believe in Satan.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

I do request though that they add an image of Baphomet caring over some children, it really shows he cares.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I’m pretty sure they have to allow it now. Unless, of course, they secretly hate the constitution and are wholly unamerican.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You can't just go around calling things what they are!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Well that would imply that they are hypocrites.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Bad news…

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

.... Not sure if you're joking or just really really naive

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I’m joking.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Let's goooo! I call dibs on Pastafarians!

Where my Muslims, Buddhists, shamans, witchy folk at?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’m sure the Satanic Temple is on it!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Gonna bring the after-school satan club to the entire state :)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

I'm ordained in the Church of the FSM. Include me in the planning and execution stages.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 months ago

Baphomet statue as well

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I love it. I want Louisiana classroom walls papered with every set of religious laws out there, to let kids know how ridiculous it all is. Not like they're going to read even the Ten Commandments posters.

Another part that sucks is that the schools are expected to pay for these posters themselves. None of the state's budget was allocated to implement this.

And both of those things are the tip of the iceberg when it comes to this law- https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/6/21/2247667/-Here-are-9-outrageous-facts-about-Louisiana-s-Ten-Commandments-law

And yes, 'outrageous' is exactly the right word to use there, that is not clickbait. If you read that and are not pissed off about what Louisiana is doing to children, you sure as hell should be.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Try to put satanist posters in those schools

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Ooh, we should have them put up the Five Commandments of Discordianism (a.k.a. the PENTABARF) too!

THE PENTABARFThe PENTABARF was discovered by the hermit Apostle Zarathud in the Fifth Year of The Caterpillar. He found them carved in gilded stone, while building a sun deck for his cave, but their import was lost for they were written in a mysterious cypher. However, after 10 weeks & 11 hours of intensive scrutiny he discerned that the message could be read by standing on his head and viewing it upside down.

KNOW YE THIS O MAN OF FAITH!

I - There is no Goddess but Goddess and She is Your Goddess. There is no Erisian Movement but The Erisian Movement and it is The Erisian Movement. And every Golden Apple Corps is the beloved home of a Golden Worm.

II - A Discordian Shall Always use the Official Discordian Document Numbering System.

III - A Discordian is Required during his early Illumination to Go Off Alone & Partake Joyously of a Hot Dog on a Friday; this Devotive Ceremony to Remonstrate against the popular Paganisms of the Day: of Catholic Christendom (no meat on Friday), of Judaism (no meat of Pork), of Hindic Peoples (no meat of Beef), of Buddhists (no meat of animal), and of Discordians (no Hot Dog Buns).

IV - A Discordian shall Partake of No Hot Dog Buns, for Such was the Solace of Our Goddess when She was Confronted with The Original Snub.

V - A Discordian is Prohibited of Believing what he reads.

IT IS SO WRITTEN! SO BE IT. HAIL DISCORDIA! PROSECUTORS WILL BE TRANSGRESSICUTED.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Praise be to the PENTABARF!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Discord you say?

Eris you say?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Hail Eris!

I partook of no hot dog buns long before I had a copy of the Principia. That's how I knew Eris was always watching over me.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well, yeah, because of course!

I'm waiting for the satanists to demand their scriptures with Baphomet too, come on, hurry up!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (6 children)

The Seven Fundamental Tenants of TST removed from any other context are pretty decent guidelines for life. #4 gets a lot of flack, but I feel like it's counterbalanced by #7.

So people don't have to Google:

I. One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.

II. The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.

III. One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.

IV. The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.

V. Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.

VI. People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.

VII. Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'd say respecting ones freedom to offend is important.

While I can respect that someone has the freedom to say offensive shit, I don't have to respect them for exercising that freedom and can call them a fucking idiot, thus exercising my own freedom to offend.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

4 is essentially paraphrasing Voltaire. Belief that offending someone is a violation of their rights leads to authoritarianism and censorship. 4 says you can be a dick; 1 says you really shouldn't be and 6 says you should apologize when you are.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Most of the shade I have seen thrown at IV is based on somewhat overly Libertarian quotes from the founder Lucian Graves. The organization as a whole leans extremely left, so some were caught a bit off guard. I'll have to dig it up, it was years ago, but also Lucian is not a perfect individual (nor is anyone).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

I. One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.

No wonder Republicans don't like them.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

These dipshits have to be stupid to not see this coming right?

I mean you don’t get to 47th in nation by chance!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You haven’t met Christian fundamentalists, have you?

Like most religious fundies… they’re extra special.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

I think they want to go to court now that there are compromised judges at every level; that's the only way to create the Christian nationalist utopia they desire.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Wiccan Rede is one line and can be trimmed to two words.

It's also a chief principle of preschool and kindergarten classes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

"An ye harm none, do what ye will"

Wikipedia

Disclaimer: I am not Wiccan, except for the mandatory year every highschool girl experiences.

(This is not meant to be dismissive of the faith, just a joke about shared experiences. I love my pagan sisters and others)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I hung out with the coven the year they did it at my school. Wiccan girls made the best wingmen in school and introduced me to a lot of good music.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Lol no not like that says every evangelical christo-fascist!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I hope they go for hindu swastikas just to mess with them.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

That will just give Louisiana justification to put up the Nazi ones too. "It's just a religious symbol!"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

fuck these people, don't force your religion on people (especially children).

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Since apparently the teachers will have to provide the posters themselves as it wasn't added to the school budgets, I wonder if they can get away with having the 10 commandments being written in comic sans oR LiKe tHiS and have the SpongeBob meme to go with it since technically, the commandments are still being displayed.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

I worship Cenobites and I want to see Lament Configurations in every class room! Let’s tear some souls apart!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago
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