this post was submitted on 26 Jun 2024
477 points (99.4% liked)

Atheism

4075 readers
180 users here now

Community Guide


Archive Today will help you look at paywalled content the way search engines see it.


Statement of Purpose

Acceptable

Unacceptable

Depending on severity, you might be warned before adverse action is taken.

Inadvisable


Application of warnings or bans will be subject to moderator discretion. Feel free to appeal. If changes to the guidelines are necessary, they will be adjusted.


If you vocally harass or discriminate against any individual member, you will be removed.

Likewise, if you are a member, sympathizer or a resemblant of a group that is known to largely hate, mock, discriminate against, and/or want to take lives of any other group of people, and you were provably vocal about your hate, then you you will be banned on sight.

Provable means able to provide proof to the moderation, and, if necessary, to the community.

 ~ /c/nostupidquestions

If you want your space listed in this sidebar and it is especially relevant to the atheist or skeptic communities, PM DancingPickle and we'll have a look!


Connect with Atheists

Help and Support Links

Streaming Media

This is mostly YouTube at the moment. Podcasts and similar media - especially on federated platforms - may also feature here.

Orgs, Blogs, Zines

Mainstream

Bibliography

Start here...

...proceed here.

Proselytize Religion

From Reddit

As a community with an interest in providing the best resources to its members, the following wiki links are provided as historical reference until we can establish our own.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

I know little about the satanic temple, but I’m curious how they got to “commandments” that are basically good by any standard out of a character that has historically been viewed as a purveyor of discord and evil deeds.

E: way to downvote, people. It was a legit question. I’m atheist so I don’t read anything about individual gods or their opposing deities unless it’s in a fantasy novel.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Because they don't actually worship satan, rather exist solely to highlight religious (especially christian, given them being US-based) hypocrisy. The name choice and theming around satanic symbols was probably done more to symbolize going against the reality of christianity than anything to do with christian myths about satan, as well as to specifically piss off those christians that go on about religious freedom but are against the satanic temple getting the same freedoms as the christian church.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

It relates to the myth of Satan in at least one way - he rebelled against god.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Lol the name choice was just to piss off conservatives. Nothing at all to do with Satan

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

The whole Satan thing is just a metaphor for acting against Christian Supremacism. They don’t actually believe in Satan.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

TST is not theistic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

In addition to what others have said about the worship not really being genuine, in the Bible, the evil of Satan (whichever flavour that story is using) is mostly tied to his defiance of Yahweh. By definition, their god is everything that is good, therefore anything in opposition must be evil.

The only time he performs unambiguously evil acts is when God gives him permission to fuck with his just loyal follower, just to prove to Satan that he would still be loyal, which has them both looking bad.

Other examples of "evil acts" include encouraging humans to seek knowledge, encouraging David to perform a census, telling Jesus to try something else, "entering" Judas so he'd betray Jesus (which was also a necessary part of the whole Jesus salvation plan), accusing Joshua in front of God and being rebuked for it (which makes his whole timeline questionable because apparently he fell from heaven before humans were a thing but he's there to accuse Joshua so Yahweh can rebuke him and reestablish Joshua's legitimacy in a time when his grip on his spiritual power was tenuous).

Because of all of this, there is a school of thought that says, if the characters and events in the Bible are real, maybe the whole thing has been a smear campaign against Satan because once you drop the whole "defying Yahweh is evil" assumption, Satan's record looks a lot better than Yahweh's.

But the more I look in to the Bible, the more it looks like a transparent power grab and hold. Which was specifically the reason Constantine adopted Christianity for Rome, because he was having a hard time convincing people in Iberia and Gaul they should be fighting wars in Anatolia and the Middle East and wanted to use religion to give a common identity.