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The Irish soviets (Irish: Sóivéidí na hÉireann) were a series of self-declared soviets that formed in Ireland during the revolutionary period of the Irish War of Independence and the Irish Civil War (1919 to 1923), mainly in the province of Munster. "Soviet" in this context refers to a council of workers who control their place of work.

The labour movement in Ireland during the Irish War of Independence had been deeply affected by the events of the Dublin Lockout of 1913 as well as Bolshevik Revolution in Russia in 1917. It was also being influenced by the concurrent Revolutions of 1917–1923, which saw several left-wing led revolutions rise up in Europe, also inspired by the revolution in Russia. Soviets were emerging across Europe in places such as Bavaria, Bremen, Ukraine and Hungary. This trend caught on in Ireland as well, itself in the midst of a revolution as the Irish Republican Army sought to end British rule over Ireland

The first soviet - Monaghan Asylum

Preceding the more famous Limerick Soviet by two months, the first Irish soviet was declared on 29 January 1919. Led by Donegal union organiser and IRA Commander Peadar O'Donnell, the soviet was declared as part of a strike for better working conditions for the staff of the Monaghan Lunatic Asylum (as it was then known). Amongst the worker's complaints were that they were being forced to work 93 hours a week and were not allowed to leave the premises between shifts. Upon declaration of the soviet, a red flag was flown over the building. In response armed police were sent to remove the workers, however, they had barricaded themselves inside. The operators of the Asylum were forced to negotiate with the workers. Workers won a 56-hour week and a pay rise for both male and female staff. A further concession was that married staff were to be allowed go home after their shifts ended. It was eventually disestablished on 4 February of the same year.

Limerick Soviet

One of the first and most important soviets to be declared in Ireland at this time was the soviet declared in Limerick City from 14 to 27 April 1919.[6] Following IRA activity inside the city as well as the death of IRA member Robert Byrne, the Royal Irish Constabulary sought to lock down the city to prevent further encroachment by the revolutionaries. However, their implementation of the lockdown was overzealous and heavyhanded and resulted in a backlash from the inhabitants of the city. A strike committee was created by Trade Unionists inside Limerick and they declared a general strike against "British Military Occupation". For two weeks all British troops were boycotted and the special strike committee organised the printing of their own money, control over food prices and the publishing of newspapers.

Knocklong Soviet

The soviet in Limerick City was the most significant soviet to be declared owing to the fact it had the largest number of participants, but many more followed in its wake. The following month on 15 May 1920, workers in County Limerick began seizing creameries belonging to the Cleeve Family Business, the primary one being located near the village of Knocklong. The Cleeves were an Anglo-Canadian Unionist family committed to the British Empire, and a major business operator, employing over 3,000 workers across Ireland in dairy-related industries in addition to about 5,000 farmers. During World War I they heavily promoted recruitment efforts by the British Army in Limerick. It was in their personal interest to do so, as the Cleeves were also profiting from the war as they were also supplying food to the British army, netting a profit around £1,000,000 from this contract by end of 1918. The Cleeves' support for the British would have found them little support amidst the revolution in Ireland, but further compounding resentment against them was the fact that the Cleeves were considered to be one of the lowest paying employers in Ireland.

Following a trade dispute with the Cleeves, workers belonging to the Irish Transport and General Workers Union (ITGWU) seized production facilities and began running them independently of the Cleeves. A red flag was flown over the main building and a banner reading "KNOCKLONG SOVIET CREAMERY: WE MAKE BUTTER NOT PROFITS" was displayed. Work continued as per usual at the creameries but the Cleeves were forced to negotiate with the workers in order to regain control of the facilities.

The success of the Knocklong Soviet would result in both further strikes against Cleeves' owned premises but also retaliation from the Cleeves. At first, the Cleeves attempted to lay off workers at Knocklong under the auspices that a national general strike by ITGWU against handling British munitions had resulted in "a lack of work". However, this ploy was defeated by the formation of a strike committee. The Cleeves quickly changed tack; On the 24th of August, they insured the creamery against the outbreak of a fire. Coincidentally on the 26th of August, a unit of Black and Tans arrived in Knocklong and burnt down the creamery

Waterford Soviet

One of the shorter-lived but nonetheless influential soviets arose in April 1920 in Waterford City. The soviet existed during a national general strike against the detention of Republicans on hunger-strike. Workers enforced the general strike as well as a permit system. After a number of days, word came to Waterford that the general strike had been a success and the British government had caved in to the demand. Thousands flocked to the City Hall where, before Amhrán na bhFiann was sung to close out the event, Union leaders sang the verses of The Red Flag while a crowd less familiar with the song piped in on the choruses.

Bruree Soviet

On 26 August 1921, the bakery and mills in Bruree, County Limerick (owned by the Cleeve Family) were occupied by almost all of its employees save the manager and a clerk. The workers raised a red flag, raised a banner reading "Bruree Soviet Workers Mill" and proclaimed they were now in control of the mill and would be selling its food at a lower price, forgoing the "profiteering" formerly being practised there. Forcing the owners to the negotiation table at Liberty Hall in Dublin, Union officials claimed the soviet was able to drop prices, double sales and increase wages. Sinn Féin's Minister for Labour Countess Markievicz mediated the negotiations and it is alleged she threatened to send in IRA troops to the Bruree Soviet if they did not accept the outcome of the arbitration

Cork Harbour Soviet

In 1920 a commission in Cork City established by Lord Mayor Tomás Mac Curtain had been tasked with determining what the living wage of workers in Cork City should be. By late September 1920 it was reporting that this wage should be 70 shillings a week, an amount rather more than most workers in the city received at this time. The commission repeated their recommendation again in February 1921. It was at this point that the local ITGWU branch asked the Cork Harbour Board to make 70 shillings the wage for workers. The Cork Harbour Board resisted for months and by June 1921 had firmly rejected the proposal. The proposal was rejected a final time in September 1921. In response, workers seized control of the Cork Custom House, a red flag was flown and a soviet declared on 7 September. News of the Cork Harbour Soviet was covered in media as far away as the New York Times. Locally, the Unionist aligned paper The Irish Times decried the Cork Harbour Soviet as an outbreak of "Irish Bolshevism" and fearfully pondered of the possibility of a civil war between Nationalists and Socialists breaking out if Ireland achieved independence from Britain.

Fall of the soviets

As the revolutionary period in Ireland drew to a close, so too did the age of the soviets. The protracted conflict in Ireland was draining the economy and the ability of employers to meet wage demands and their ability to quickly end strikes by simply giving in to the workers' demands. At the end of 1921 the Cleeves business empire declared that it was £100,000 in debt, and claimed to have taken roughly £275,000 in losses for the year.

On 12 May 1922 The Cleeves declared a lockout, put 3,000 of its employees out of work. In response the soviets seized production centres in Bruff, Athlacca, Bruree, Tankardstown, Dromin and Ballingaddy near Kilmallock all in County Limerick, and centres in Tipperary Town, Galtymore, Bansha, Clonmel and Carrick-on-Suir in County Tipperary and finally Mallow in County Cork.

The Irish Times denounced the seizures and declared that the workers had "neither allegiance to the Irish Free State nor the Irish Republic, but only to Soviet Russia". Trouble for the soviets was also brewing on another front: the farmers who supplied the creameries with milk were beginning to sour on their comrades. The Irish Farmers Union led a campaign to deny the soviets a supply of milk, and resolved to "forbid our members to supply under the Red Flag, which is the flag of Anarchy and revolution"

The Civil War that erupted between those for and against the Anglo-Irish Treaty had seen Munster become a hotbed and base for the Anti-Treaty IRA forces, and thus a battleground to be fought over. The soviets came into conflict with both Anti-Treaty and the Free State National Army. The Tipperary Soviet was involved in a shoot out with the anti-treaty side. The gasworks in Tipperary was destroyed by the retreating anti-treaty forces. Similarly the newly formed National Army also took to dismantling the soviets. Extreme pressure was being placed on the fledgeling Irish Free State by both the British Government and the wider world to maintain a conservative order in Ireland. The soviets were deemed agents of anarchy by both the conservative press and conservative politicians, and thus another element the National Army had to remove. Without a wider political structure or organisation to unify them, nor a fighting force to defend themselves, the soviets were forced to fold and bow out. When Free State forces entered any town that had a soviet, they would arrest the leaders and take down any symbols signalling defiance such as Red Flags.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (6 children)

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Don't let people call it the Iranian attack on Israel or the Israeli retaliation. Israel bombed Iran first. Embassy is sovereign soil and bombing one clints just the damn same. It's Iran's retaliation and Israel's escalation. Don't let their narrative dictate your language to mislead.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Israel has bombed shit inside Iran's borders before too, utterly intransigent

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

you used to be able to support 2 families on a single travelling salesman's paycheck.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

I cleaned my whole room, washed all my bedding, and put my plushies back in my bed

Highly recommend doing this if you have been putting this off like me

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I remember someone posted some meme that was like Instead of saying "I'm the worst worker here", say "I'm a master trickster who will never be caught", but I can't find it because I have a 0% success rate of using the search feature. Anyone remember where that was?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not a big fan of the government

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (7 children)

even my mostly "non-political" hwite American friends are rooting for Iran today, it's wild to see

maybe I've actually rubbed off on 'em

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

sadness ah fuck they're starting WW3 before i could get started on HRT

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

It kinda pisses me off because when you realize the absolutely absurd idea of western beauty, you realize how many people are made essentially invisible despite whatever beautiful shit is in their mind and heart

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They should make OJ's coffin slightly too small

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Talking about money with my mom and mention we're probably in the top 1% globally by virtue of being Americans and not being in abject poverty (for the moment 🙃)

"No way. We're in the top third, maybe."

Who's gonna tell her clueless

spoilerIt's me. I told her aware

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

My great grandfather was involved with the Irish soviets and that's why he ended up having to flee from the British, which he detailed in a manuscript for an unpublished book I am trying to get ahold of now that my dad has it after his mom passed. I really cannot wait to read it and share it with you all.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

just had to make a reddit-logo account again for the purposes of asking some very specific questions about my eventual escape from amerikkka. jesus christ i'd forgotten how absolutely insufferable and stupid they are, just one hour of interacting with them put me in a significantly worse mood. made me realize how much good faith i'd been taking for granted here on hexbear. i love all you weirdos

Death to America

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

On vacay and I'm looking at the distant mountains covered in fog thinking "Omg look at that render distance, devs using fog to cover up low poly LOD" joker-gaming

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (17 children)

If I was god I bet I could have designed the ball sack a little better

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Leftist encountering contradictions: these must be fixed

Liberal encountering contradictions: these must be ignored

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago

Weird and overly personal, sort of relationshippy/attractionyOkay so uh why do strong women turn off my survival instincts? And I don't mean in a sexual, 'ooh mommy crush my face between your thighs~' way, no, none of that. It's not about appearance or aesthetic either, no; I mean like, if my partner has very demonstrable strength, like the ability to lift me, the immediate next thing my brain goes to is "can you please hug me so hard that it crushes my ribcage, ma'am?"

There are maybe many factors at play here: I might not respect my fleshform's bones enough because my sternum is always trying to kill me, and I think in sensory terms it's sort of a derivative of the weighted blanket thing, where the pressure is just so satisfying. She will be crushing me half to death, almost but not quite to the point of restricting my breathing, and I will be deeply content. Exerting all of your muscular force upon me is what brings me happiness, ma'am. Also, I really do just like it when lesbian strong, because hehe open jars for me, I guess.

I have a very silly brain i-love-not-thinking

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

Is there a higher-res version of hexbear-bi-2 ? It's related to my previous post about getting a Pride-appropriate custom baseball jersey. I want to use it as the team logo.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Damn an accidental good take.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

I saw a strange anti-China propaganda video where the guy claimed that Chinese electric car companies are lying about having a technology that stops your hands from getting crushed between car doors, and says that when people tried with chicken feet they got crushed, while showing footage of chicken feet very much not getting crushed. Then he ends by saying "a boy and another man already did it to themselves", while showing footage of a child trying the feature and being obviously unhurt. The video has over 200k likes.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Mum bought a tesla. With the recent posts on it, I realise that it was a probably mistake.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Brianna Wu found a new wikipedia page to skim

Wonder how bought she is into the "make redditor pp hard theory of freedom" that is frequently used around discussions of the Iranian revolution.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

venting about my mom passing a little cw: griefI really hate it when the random feeling of grief hit. Mainly jut like, the sadness that comes? I was thinking of a past friend, and then my thoughts trailed to my mom that like. I dunno. Just like never seeing her again. Nor will I ever see her house or anything again. Just gone.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Carnists could be eating superior Soviet cows fed single-cell protein feed made from methane gas feedstocks but instead they have to eat American beef that's fed land-inefficient corn and literal feces. Because of Woke. corn-man-khrush

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

fuckin tired of these chuds wearing shirts saying "buck fiden" SAY "FUCK BIDEN" YOU GODDAMN COWARDS, STOP ACTING LIKE A TOUGH GUY WHILE YOU PRANCE AROUND THE MAYPOLE OF PROFANITY INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY SAYING IT

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

AH FUCK

YESTERDAY WAS WORLD HAMSTER DAY AND I FORGOT

FUCK

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

was wondering why my herb vape wasn't hitting... it's because I didn't put any weed in it 🤦‍♀️

what is wrong with me. I'm not even high yet

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

I’m only 30 pages in on Losurdo’s Stalin book, but I can already say it’s veeeery good. I’ll have to do a review post when I’m done but I think Hexbears are gonna love this book (we finally got an official English translation a few months ago).

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Someday I will get my foot out of my mouth and be capable of not fucking embarrassing myself to painful degrees in public spaces all the time every day

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

Random thought... if your photos auto upload to Google or even Apple servers and then you post it here, even if the metadata is scrubbed, it's still bad opsec.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

Hey cool they're posting highly-upvoted explicit Nazi memes on the Helldivers subreddit again...

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Farted so loud it startled my dog im-doing-my-part

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ive never seen a person ever

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

A good track makes you think "Oh wow, I could dance to this"

A truly great track makes you realize "Oh wow, I've been absolutely busting it down to this for like 3 minutes and am just now noticing."

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Posting neat Chinese phrases whenever I feel like #35

{如|rú}{果|guǒ} / {要|yào}{是|shì}

Literally: “follow fruit / need be”

Figuratively: “if”

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

got a labour flyer through the letterbox today, turns out that among their candidate's campaign promises are "stop the boats, end the hotel use for refugees and remove those with no legal right to be here", which kinda just shows what they're going for - daily mail readers
it's been a while since i've been canvassed, but i wonder if i could restrain myself from revealing that far from ever being willing to support and vote for right-wingers, I want only to literally pull their heads off as a service to mankind and the world in general

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

My Mom got me a gift card to a small spice store, so they have my email. And for the last few years the owner has just become more and more of an unhinged resistance Lib. Every time Trump does something or is indicted, I get a flood of emails about how this guy doesn't want support or business from Trump supporters (aka treasonous swine).

And now he is sending out emails with his takes on geopolitics. I just got an email with the subject being something like "Iranian Missile Strike and Diplomacy in the Middle East" and the first half of the email was all just spice blends that are 40% off, and then commentary from a small business Blue MAGA tyrant about how great and responsible U.S. diplomats are.

Folks, the Libs, they are not OK.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I’m only 1.5/8 episodes into the Fallout show and it has more class consciousness than the Bethesda Fallout games

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I dunno where to share this so I'll just share this here, but im going through Trans Liberation: Beyond Pink or Blue, and I really liked this part. Probably been shared before by others, but I don't care. It just too good not to be shared again

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So who will lead our movements today? Recently, many in the trans communities have been discussing “What makes a leader?” We’ve grown up in a society that places much more value on some human lives than on others, where a few are considered shepherds, and the rest sheep. We have been taught that we have no power to change the most miserable conditions of our lives. But that’s a lie.

Everyone in this room is a leader. Each of us is needed as an organizer, as an activist in the decisive struggles that lie ahead.

There’s a wonderful Chinese proverb that advises “The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it.” The people who are making history today are the organizers, the activists, those who are building coalitions, distributing leaflets, making calls, sending out e-mail, mobilizing others out of their despair and into motion. The leaders are the ones who are “doing it.” And the responsibility and role of leadership is to develop leadership in others.

In the words of African-American poet June Jordan, “We are the ones we have been waiting for.”

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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Ha! I got it right this time.

Yessir, everything is coming up for me.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

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