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Unfortunately, part of the problem is looking for workwear at Target. The women's workwear there is for white collar or pink collar jobs, and the men's workwear is just fake stuff that won't hold up to a single day of outdoor work.

A better option would be a farm supply store or dedicated workwear outfitter.

Just as a sidebar, the reason why office work jobs have a gender-divide regarding the temperature is due to sexism.

The standard office temperature was based on what was ideal for a man like half a century ago. AMAB people tend to run a bit warmer due to metabolic reasons and men were/still are expected to wear heavier clothes that provide full coverage of their bodies. Going back to the 50s or the 70s, men overwhelmingly had the "ideal" office spots - corner and side offices often with fairly large windows so there's more sun exposure.

Women were/often still are expected to wear lighter clothes with less coverage of their bodies—compare a typical work blouse to a typical button-up shirt—and the majority were relegated to secretarial sort of work and the office pit, where you're probably in the centre part of the office.

So you've got a situation where most offices cater to the needs and circumstances of men, making the typical office temperature unreasonably cold for women.

What an awesome society! Trashing the environment just so that men can look refined and dignified while women are expected to choose between looking pretty and suffering for it, or dressing practically for their office work conditions and, naturally, suffering in other ways for that.

Of course this is not on the level of Qing Dynasty foot binding but there's a vast, globe-spanning cultural expectation that women ought to physically suffer due to societal standards of beauty and modesty across history, and this phenomenon of the office of today being uncomfortably cold for women sits very neatly within that history.

Sorry we don’t have pants with pockets. Can I interest you in a completely transparent cotton t-shirt that will immediately disintegrate after the first wash? No? What it I told you that it was also cropped?

So this is going to sound strange but I really enjoy overalls. There is something about them that makes my hands go all flappy. You sound like you need something with utility in it. Some of the best overalls are made for workers and have a shit ton of pockets, loops, and even drop seats so you don't have to undo the bib and have your stuff fall out!

I suggest buying owl clothes instead

Any luck at the farm supply store? Fleet Farm is pretty good in my area for this stuff

I'd say the worst part about women's clothing is vanity sizing and one size here being a completely different size there. Fucking irritating stuff. Have to hunt down size charts every time I want to buy clothes.

You are right though. I do miss pockets as well. None of my pajama pants have them and my old ones had them

Baby clothes unironically have more pockets than women's clothes

That men's workwear stuff looks terrible too. What the hell are cargo jogger pants? Those things will break apart so fast in an actual blue collar or outdoor work environment. That stuff is for dudes that want to look tough while working an office job and driving a lifted pick up truck.

The women's section from an actual workwear brand in South Africa looks pretty decent though, just very expensive, thankfully not everyone is doing this weird gender roles stuff. The women's section of this American brand also looks decent

Dickies, Carhartt, or Duluth Trading my comrade.

Cargo pants all day erry day best pant only pant.

My parents used to wear army camo cargo pants in the 90s and i thought it was very cool

We just gotta get you a sewing machine. And maybe 20 yards of linen.

Frankly, there is no solution to the clothing industry that doesn't involve bringing tailoring back. I say this from the heart as someone with odd proportions.

evolve. adapt. overcome. wear a fanny pack. it is your destiny

Most girls I know usually just shop men’s pants for cargos

EMT pants maybe? Several folks at work seem to have good luck with them

The only workwear you're gonna find at target is workwear for lib office workers that’s why you can’t find anything. I find my work pants at goodwill because my job is rough on pants.

Uniqlo has pretty good stuff imo, so does Cottonon, though the waist pockets still need work.

Proper urbanwear brands get pricy but are also sometimes good.

Have you thought about buying some men's pants that are a little bigger than you need and have them tailored for your body type? So they are functional and look good? Might be cost prohibitive if it's lots of alterations but it's worth a shot I think.

Yeah, those men’s work pants look like business casual chinos with some extra pockets. As others have pointed out, there is a lot of workwear second hand if you feel like looking.

Also, the work trousers I use are about the same price as the ones listed, and they have a lot more pockets and won’t tear on the first brambles you brush across. They also come in “women’s” models.

I'll be real those work pants selections still suck. I don't think they'd last a year at my job.

I would highly recommend searching for women’s “tactical” pants you’ll find what you’re looking for.

I can’t speak to this specific brand’s quality, but these are $25

https://vertx.com/womens-phantom-lt-pants

I know right. Been buying mens joggers, shorts and gargo pants always so I can have fucking pockets.

A pair of shorts I got from the mens side last year had three pockets in them when the womens had none. They were essentially the same shorts otherwise. They are always a lot cheaper too.

My proportions also never fit womens clothes, way too much shoulders. It makes for some interesting body issues over time.

If you're looking for good workwear pants, I'd recommend this brand https://projob-workwear.com/collections/men-pants Bought a few 6 years ago and they're still serving me well. Used them for machinework, gardening, carpenting, sailmaking, demolition all sorts of shit. Still doing good. Seen them on femme bodies and they're fine there too. they no longer sell the type I bought, but it was closest to the "Women's mid-weight service pants". That one seems to have a bunch of pockets too.

Their safety shoes suck ass though.