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the empire is evil (thelemmy.club)
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[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 48 points 3 days ago

Skywalker and the rebellion only attacked combatants. Big difference there.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 days ago

The people rebuilding the Death Star weren't combatants.

Also, didn't Stellan Skarsgard do some morally questionable shit in Andor?

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

The people rebuilding the Death Star weren't combatants.

WTF? Of course they are.

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago

Anyone working on a military base during a war is a combatant. They are contributing directly to the war effort.

[-] king_comrade@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

In a society committed to total war, that argument can be used against civilians.

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago

Ukraine is attacking Russia's oil infrastructure because it is funding the Russian war machine. They are valid targets, despite being run by civilians. I wish them good hunting.

[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 56 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That's movie niceness. There's another faction of the rebellion they comes up a few times that has no such qualms.

Also are you really telling me everyone on the death star and whatever planet in the sequels was a combatant

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

are you really telling me everyone on the death star and whatever planet in the sequels was a combatant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4MVQby0InQ

[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

He raises fair points but also the contractors would likely know what they were working on this time around (that it was a planet killing weapon)

[-] tryagain@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 days ago

Even the nice server in the canteen who told Lord Vader he'd need a tray for his penne arrabbiata because the plate was hot?

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 days ago

Vader drops the plate because it's too hot

"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

[-] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 3 points 2 days ago
[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

"It's a tra...y"

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

There will always be extremists, but that doesn’t make it their core policy. And also, most extremism is guerilla from the other side, so false flags.

It’s literally impossible for there not to some faction that goes against the norm, that’s just human nature. Doubly so when it’s a well established and common espionage tactic.

It’s not movie niceness, it’s how real life is so most know to ignore it, since it’s likely the enemies doing it anyways. And if not, how is it proved?

[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

So so you apply the same logic to real life "terrorists"?

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That’s how things works, yes.

There’s a difference between utilizing and agreeing with extremists, which they aren’t doing, and trying to charge them with war crimes and distancing themselves, which they are doing.

Just because someone on the left shoots someone on the right doesn’t make every left a murderer. This is the logic you’re applying here, and isn’t how life or anything works. You are just wrong here.

There’s a reason you’re using the word terrorist instead of Rebel or Imperial, now isn’t that weird? Why separate them if they aren’t different…?

Wanting to kill all lefts because of the actions of one that goes against the group makes you the bad guy, you understand this very simple concept yeah?

[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

I don't know who you're arguing against, but it ain't me

[-] vane@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago

So you say there was no independent contractors building Death Star in Return of the Jedi ?

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

They knew what they were signing up for.

[-] magikmw@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago

Did they tho? Empire's propaganda has near endless resources and reach.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If you work on a military installation during a war, you shouldn't be surprised to find yourself in the middle of an attack.

[-] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Saw Gererra would like a word.

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

The extremist that they want nothing to do with…? That’s helping their case by bringing them up.

Exactly - we’ve allowed our government(s) to dilute the definition of terrorism through constant misuse. It’s not terrorism to attack military targets, even if the attacker is a stateless actor. Similarly, it is terrorism to attack civilians, even when perpetrated by a government. Terrorism is not simply a catch-all term for unsanctioned violence.

[-] BogeyTheSwear@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

So you're saying the state of Israel is terrorists?

[-] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 points 2 days ago

When the Rebels establish themselves in planets like Hoth or in the moon of Endor, do you think they don't subjugate the locals?

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

There was nothing of the kind in the movies, so that's just speculation on your part.

[-] qarbone@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah, the Rebellion we are shown through its heroes are not terrorists, they are a guerilla army. They don't want to break the Empire through citizen revolt after sowing mass unrest; they make precision strikes on military infrastructure and assassinate critical Imperial officials.

[-] MoffKalast@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

But there must've been a death star canteen, yeah? There must've been a cafeteria downstairs.

[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago

There are chefs and janitors on aircraft carriers.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

I want the penne all’arrabbiata.

[-] MoffKalast@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago
[-] t_berium@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

This one's wet...

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