Most people just watch movies for fun, they don't think about it.
You should watch them with my son, the film studies major. I try to discuss that cool violent scene, and he wants to discuss the existential nature of the antagonist's motivation or something.
Coz Luke is white, bro. Imagine if they did everything the same, nothing changes in star wars, except Luke and Obi Wan are changed to black and brown guys.
How many of these people would still love the movie?
Yeah but Luke Skywalker is white.
...that's all you need. :|
Cracker farm-boy Luke Skywalker, Nazi poster boy blond hair, blue eyes.
Oddly played by the polar opposite in Mark Hamill.
He's good at that with Joker too.
The Empire vs the Rebellion wasn't black and white anyway. There was good and bad on both sides.
In newer Star Wars (especially stuff like Andor), I agree. In old Star Wars (especially episode IV-VI), no. These movies are 100% black and white.
The most grey character that exists in there is Darth Vater who's whole life of horrible atrocities was forgiven within 2 minutes because he betrayed space Hitler and was the Hero's dad.
Nah, I never forgave Anakin for killing the younglings. He doesn't come back from that. Period.
tbf, betraying space hitler to end the war...

In Episodes IV-VI, I think the Empire was portrayed as bad mainly due to their execution of power.
I think the Empire's ideals of order and stability don't seem so bad in theory. Even the Mandolorian TV show (which was set around that time) supports this perspective.
The virtue of stability is entirely dependent on the virtue of the system you are stabilizing.
One person's freedom fighter is another person's terrorist
Yea no, it was white and white 😐
Still people idolise darth vador...
Skywalker and the rebellion only attacked combatants. Big difference there.
The people rebuilding the Death Star weren't combatants.
Also, didn't Stellan Skarsgard do some morally questionable shit in Andor?
The people rebuilding the Death Star weren't combatants.
WTF? Of course they are.
Anyone working on a military base during a war is a combatant. They are contributing directly to the war effort.
In a society committed to total war, that argument can be used against civilians.
Ukraine is attacking Russia's oil infrastructure because it is funding the Russian war machine. They are valid targets, despite being run by civilians. I wish them good hunting.
That's movie niceness. There's another faction of the rebellion they comes up a few times that has no such qualms.
Also are you really telling me everyone on the death star and whatever planet in the sequels was a combatant
are you really telling me everyone on the death star and whatever planet in the sequels was a combatant
He raises fair points but also the contractors would likely know what they were working on this time around (that it was a planet killing weapon)
Even the nice server in the canteen who told Lord Vader he'd need a tray for his penne arrabbiata because the plate was hot?
Vader drops the plate because it's too hot
"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
"You'll need a tray..."
"It's a tra...y"
Saw Gererra would like a word.
So you say there was no independent contractors building Death Star in Return of the Jedi ?
They knew what they were signing up for.
Did they tho? Empire's propaganda has near endless resources and reach.
If you work on a military installation during a war, you shouldn't be surprised to find yourself in the middle of an attack.
Exactly - we’ve allowed our government(s) to dilute the definition of terrorism through constant misuse. It’s not terrorism to attack military targets, even if the attacker is a stateless actor. Similarly, it is terrorism to attack civilians, even when perpetrated by a government. Terrorism is not simply a catch-all term for unsanctioned violence.
So you're saying the state of Israel is terrorists?
I am.
Are you saying they aren't?
No 😂
It hits different when you personally know stormtroopers.
But that's different. Luke is white.
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