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I’m back! It’s been a while since I’ve been on this site because I’ve found myself under some financial trouble and I’ve been stressed BUT I wanted to take this opportunity to talk about something I love dearly: dihedral groups!

Consider the symmetries of a square:

We can see that there are 4 reflections and 3 rotations, as well as the act of doing nothing at all. Together, we have 8 total symmetries, and in fact, these are all of the possible symmetries. What this means is that if we do one of these symmetric moves and then do another one, we will have not changed the square, and therefore doing these two moves is the same as doing just one of the 8 symmetries on its own. For example, doing a 90 degree rotation followed by a 180 degree rotation is the same as doing a 270 degree rotation. Also, doing a 90 degree rotation followed by a reflection across the vertical axis is the same as doing a reflection across a diagonal axis.

So in other words, we can define a function that takes two symmetries of a square as input and which outputs another symmetry. Since standard multiplication is a function taking two numbers and outputting another number, it makes sense to borrow the notation of multiplication for this function. Our symmetry function satisfies a few useful properties:

  • Closure: As explained above, for any two symmetries, the function will spit out another symmetry
  • Identity: There is a symmetry (namely, the “do nothing” symmetry) such that when it is input into the function with another symmetry, the function will always simply output the other symmetry
  • Associativity: For any symmetries a, b, and c, (ab)c = a(bc)
  • Inverses: For every symmetry, there is a symmetry that undoes it. For example, rotating a square by 270 degrees undoes rotating it by 90 degrees, and doing a reflection a second time after doing it once undoes the first reflection

These 4 properties are so important that any set of objects with a function defined on it that satisfies all of these properties has a special name: they’re called groups and they’re really freaking awesome. The symmetries of a square as a group is called D~8~, since there are 8 total symmetries. Sometimes you might see it called D~4~, since squares have 4 sides, but I think this convention is a bit silly. In the same way, D~6~ is the symmetries of an equilateral triangle, D~10~ is the symmetries of a regular pentagon, and so forth. In general, D~2n~ is the symmetries of a regular n-gon.

Now, one interesting thing is that groups can contain each other. For example, consider an octagon. Since there are squares hidden within the points of octagons, if we pick a square we can see that all of the symmetries of that square are present in the symmetries of of the octagon, so it is possible to throw out all of the other symmetries. What we would be left with is just the symmetries of a square. What this means is that D~8~ is contained in D~16~. You can play similar games to show that there are lots of groups contained inside the dihedral groups.

The last thing I want to talk about regarding these things are their subgroup lattices. Oftentimes mathematicians want to picture the internal structure of a group. One of the ways they might do this is by writing down all of the subgroups of a group they’re studying onto a piece of paper, and then connecting any two with a line if one of them is a subgroup of the other that doesn’t have a subgroup between them. The resulting picture is called a subgroup lattice, and I’ve left some dihedral group lattices below because I think they’re pretty.

two cute dihedral subgroup lattices holding hands and cuddling

Anyway this has been gushposting with your host, yewler. Maybe next mega I might talk about more specific details that make these things cool.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

sad and dysphoria and kinda unhingedWoke up in pain. Thought about hrt more, asking my friend to help me. A bunch of people think I shouldn't though with my living situation. Honestly I don't really think hrt will fix me. I just don't know what else I can do to make it stop. It hurts so bad. Its inescapable.

I remember people here telling me I'm grieving and its normal. But how can I move past it. How can it stop hurting. My life is literally going to be ruined by dysphoria forever. I just want to feel comfortable in my skin again.

spoiler sh I want it so bad, I wnat the pain to stop, I can't, I don't want to keep feeling like this. just for a short while. Trying to put it off and dsitract, like fucking always. I hate ths stupid, shitty existance. why do I do this to myself when I don't think i can get back to being okay :::

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

I’m so sorry you’re feeling bad again and I hope you can get past this rough patch. meow-hug Everyone here loves and cares about you, so if there’s anything you need don’t hesitate to say so.

Just talking about my own experience here, I don’t think HRT is an automatic cure-all but it did help me at least. I started slowly feeling better after about a month on it. Other things that helped/help me deal with dysphoria are VRChat (where I get to be my cute fem avatar, role playing (like in games or acting out dialog from VN characters), and doing things on my own time like trying out wigs, practicing voice, trying on different clothes, etc. Also just plain escapism works for me a lot of the time, like a book or game with a character I strongly identify with.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I've been there, with those same thoughts. It sucks. The thing it was always there burning quietly, so you couldn't have kept going forever without knowing either, it was eating at you slowly. Now you just know about it. I know it feels like you fucked up or you wish it would stop, I do too tbh, but it gets better the more you slowly, surely, move towards your goals and live your life as yourself. It will take time, and the changes (not even talking about hrt here) will be gradual.

Hang in there, and if your situation is currently too dangerous or unstable its also okay to focus on things other than hrt. But hrt will also work very gradually, and not everyone gets the quick relief from dysphoria.

I know it seems impossible and overwhelming but remind yourself many have been there and are there with you, you'll be OK if you hang in there!

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

spoilerI know it was. I've been barely functioning for years. Struggled before that and it's just gotten worse with time. I didn't do anything wrong. I've tried my best my whole life and it's still like this. I'm still miserable. Self harming. Wishing I'd die. I hope so. Even short term goals seem impossible. It feels like I will never get to live as myself.

What do I even focus on then :/ I've been suffocating forever. I'd like it to be done. Other people seem a lot more capable then I am. A lot less crushed by suffering.

Thank you for responding. I know I'm still being negative but I appreciate it a lot.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I don't know you personally but what you're describing is very familiar, and its very likely that your brain is being an asshole and partially maintaining you in a state where everything seems impossible and endless and horrible. Its a lie, at least part of it is. You can do it, you'll look back and be happy you stayed strong, I swear to you !

One step at a time. Having more space for yourself. Finding other people to open up to, putting on a few clothes in your room, doing things secretely first so you can do them openly later. Its a fight, but you're a fighter. Don't let those who make you suffer win, take your time, and try to find others that can help!

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