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[–] 90 points 1 year ago (61 children)

I'd argue that Nancy Pelosy is more representative of the dems than AOC.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (38 children)

    Well, I’d argue Nancy is more representative of wealthy American neo-liberals, which most of us are not.

    I’d even argue is Nancy even a dem at this point she’s more of a centrist parading around as a dem.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Nancy is more representative of wealthy American neo-liberals

    Yes which is much closer to who the Dems are representing as a whole

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    No, based upon the popularity of policies, AOC is FAR closer to representing normal people than more conservative democrats like Pelosi are?

    There is a reason people hate centrist corporate democrats, it is because they don't even pretend to push policies people desperately need.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    While Nancy's actual politics may be more centrists than dem, shes still one of the old guards that must go away for any actual change in the party.

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    Dems are a far right party that only look centrist if you squint looking at them from inside fascist crazy town.

    To basically anyone in the developed world, of which we are not, Luigi murdered a mass murderer, to any fascist or neoliberal here, we have to let murderers for profit let the free market decide who gets life saving healthcare, as just 1 of innumerable examples.

    Neoliberals don't squee like little girls at the hello kitty store when people suffer and die needlessly when it facilitates private profit as the Fascists do, but they don't see it as the social fabric betrayal and atrocity it is either. "free market forces, mr dying homeless person, but I support your right to die in the gutter of hunger and exposure as any identity you choose!" Because it's free to, but people need their basic survival met first, and that takes resources that go to them and not the robber barons that pay off both parties.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (21 children)

    The centers of both parties are functionally allies, the power structure of the Democratic party despises the kind of progressive politics AOC and Bernie do far more than the Republicans they claim to oppose even when those Republicans are literal out in the open fascists. Chuck Shumer is exhibit A and will become a historical touchstone for discussions about how neoliberalism always in the end sets up the conditions for fascism and then pathetically collapses in the crucial moment of resistance against fascism.

    Fuck that, both parties need to go, how many times has the Democratic party laughed in the face of Bernie as they blatantly undermined him?

    No, I treat Republicans as an existential threat, which means I also logically see the entrenched power structures of the Democrats that are happy to lose to Republicans rather than evolve, as an existential threat.

    Pelosi is a Democrat through and through, AOC and Bernie are Democrats because they have no choice in the status quo.

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