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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Americans need to stop saying the Democrats want universal healthcare. They don't and they've made that clear numerous times.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 36 minutes ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

AOC is progressive, not a neoliberal. Saying liberals want universal healthcare is a straight up LIE

[–] [email protected] 4 points 51 minutes ago (1 children)

Neoliberals are not typically liberals. You can be a progressive liberal

Source: am one

[–] [email protected] 0 points 45 minutes ago (2 children)

No shit. I am replying to the meme which implies democrats want universal healthcare - they dont.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 minutes ago

You worded it strangely. Liberals and aoc want uhc

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 minutes ago

I think the confusion is that it actually implies AOC, who is a Democrat, wants universal healthcare - she does.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

AOC deserves criticism for voting to prevent the rail union strikes. Quite insufficient IMO. Just because someone is worse does not make you fit for public office.

Have higher standards. If we let the republicans set the bar we will be six feet under in no time.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

The existence of the putrid does not make trash good

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

It does make trash the best choice though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

it does when you live in a trash heap.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 hours ago

MTG is just there for the lols. She was rich before she got elected and gotten even richer since. She’a there to pass out the matches and watch the world burn

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago (8 children)

And yet when the legislature arrives to give us free Healthcare the Democrats don't pass it despite having a majority.

Both sides aren't the same, but their choices produce the same results.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

There's always conveniently a cohort of Dems that vote against party lines. Every. Time. Then they can shrug and say "welp, we tried".

Two sides of the same capitalist shit sandwich.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 minutes ago

This is because of red state Democrats like Manchin. Because every state gets two senators, there are more senators from red states than blue states. So Democrats have to capture more of the center to hey the majority in the Senate.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

And yet when the legislature arrives to give us free Healthcare the Democrats don’t pass it despite having a majority.

Obamacare saved my life and was the product of immense effort at a time when the Dems were more conservative than they are today. Blue Dogs were wiped out in 2010 and 2012 because of that (correct) rage against them.

You can say what the Dems managed to do was not enough - and it's not. Millions of people are not as lucky as me (though I suppose poverty is a strange kind of luck - poverty in a blue state, perhaps, more appropriately) and still suffer immensely under our utterly fucked healthcare system. But it's not the same result as doing nothing - or worse, handing control over to the GOP. Millions like me owe a greatly improved quality of life, or our very lives, to the reforms passed.

If you have a plan to destroy the Dems and replace them all with left-wing progressives, and put demo charges on the base of our utterly fucked rat's nest of a government structure, I'm not here to tell you not to. But I am here to tell you that both sides are not the same for millions of disadvantaged demographics, even if the Dems are not enough for those selfsame demographics.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That's really the one big thing I can think of that they did get through.

It got like 80mil people health insurance which was great.

It was still a huge compromise from the free universal healthcare that was the original goal.

It's worth noting that Obama did this by going around party leadership. Once he was in power he did not obey the DNC like other candidates have.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It’s worth noting that Obama did this by going around party leadership. Once he was in power he did not obey the DNC like other candidates have.

I mean, the president is party leadership. And Biden, an ardent party loyalist, is the only Dem president in the past 50 years which has been in lockstep with the wider party.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

When i say "the party" i mean the privately ran organization who is legally allowed to choose whoever their canidate is, and doesn't have to legally hold a fair primary election or any election at all.

Sure the president gets a temporary seat at the table, but the other DNC leaders do not want them to be in control.

The fact that Obama tried to push free healthcare made the DNC leadership furious, because that isn't what he told them before the primaries. But because they were stuck with him they instead had other loyalist dems try to help Republicans block his policies and then enjoyed the popularity Obama was bringing to the party.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

Not the same results exactly, more that the dems enable the republicans by not pushing back, but both are far below the standard we should accept.

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