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Vid clip - https://xcancel.com/tsarnick/status/1842401670225125539

I made the big mistake of watching that. And now [redacted]. Holy mother of fuck are tech bros evil.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I've heard variations of this from techno-salvationists for years. "We'll invent a solution for climate change! That's just how progress works! The world converges towards whatever futuristic vision I personally hold without regard for logic or material conditions!!"

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Strategy game tech trees and their consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tech Trees really just do re-package the whole "Stone age bronze age iron age steam gas atom jet whatever the fuck" mythos, don't they? Like often literally by name.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That and reinforcing ideas about non-European cultures that are harmful. Shit like "Native Americans didn't invent the wheel because they spent all their tax money on war instead of science." Not like the real reason, which is wheels are fucking useless without large pack animals.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The first invented wheels weren’t even for transportation, they were grinding wheels which even further erodes their point.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Mills and also Pottery wheels, which arguably predate any solid evidence of wheel’d transportation

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I just thought you had a nice play on words with "grinding wheels which erodes their point"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Lmao, I see now. I wish I could be half as clever on purpose sometimes

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Even then, many large pack animals aren't all that. The first 500 years after the collapse of western Rome was dominated by camels and limited road infrastructure.

Water is and remains the most efficient way to transport goods.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The first 500 years are the collapse of western Rome was dominated by camels and limited road infrastructure.

Where?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yeh. Mules, camels, goats, and dogs are good logistics animals. The rest of them are a bit rubbish.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Even if it did somehow invent a magic technology to solve climate change these people would just overshoot the capacity of that technology in order to maximise growth, that is just how capitalism works.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There was a post on the old sub that was basically ”Heh, stupid communists believe in their utopian fairy tales. Climate change? We'll just invent magic tech that'll make the problem go away”.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It's a combination of techno-optimism and complete political pessimism, as if the tech billionaires are helpless to actually change anything other than software. And I suspect the tech optimism is increasingly just cope at this point. The ruling class is in serious decline if this is the best they can manage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I agree. You see it when people talk about "the algorithm" too. They talk about it like it's a thing that exists by itself and not an app that whatever company can change, adjust, or turn off at will.