Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.
No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer
Gossip posts go in c/gossip. Don't post low-hanging fruit here after it gets removed from c/gossip
Steal a loaf of bread? Arrested
Steal the future of an entire planet? Oopsie poopsie zero punishment and we aren't even going to stop them.
A reminder that this is the only place we know of in the universe that supports life. The gravity of this crime cannot be overstated.
Exactly. It supports life. For free! Unacceptable. Must be made so living is a paid for opt in subscription with no alternatives. The air is far too breathable at the moment. Outrageous.
Even worse:
Be the wrong skin color? Be Jewish? Be a woman? I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE!
Clown world should have been our meme.
Unfortunately one thing fascism is great at is adapting cultural artifacts for its own messaging.
It’s truly a katamari dumbassery
You can’t spell unregulated profit without “planet wide extinction”
it's frustrating knowing that we could all just end this tomorrow if we weren't disorganized, indoctrinated, and alienated from one another.
This revelation gets revealed about once a year, I thought we knew this already?
Tbh I didn't know
I knew my country did send "recyclable" plastics to open air mass garbage dump in Africa (certified "not a colonial empire anymore" moment).
But I genuinely thought that recycling plastics was eventually possible
I kinda wonder how many "known" issues people are naively believing in. Maybe I naively believe in something. I wish we'd get more posts like this to uncover our naivety.
Start a thread! I'd like to know, too.
there's scientific articles dating back to the early 20thC clearly outlining an understanding of greenhouse gasses and anthropogenic global warming, which is not exactly what you're asking, but it's an incredibly frustrating tidbit
John Oliver even did an ep on it a couple years ago.
Climate Nuremberg Trials.
I would watch the shit out of that.
: "Your honor, I didn't murder anyone! My pollution was never INTENDED to kill anyone, I just didn't care if people lived OR died!"
: "They always had the choice of buying my canned air if they wanted, or not buying my oil at all. How is it MY fault the human race picked my product over their future?"
: "I know in socialist Europe you hate freedom here at the Hague, but in good-ol USA we support this thing callled 'freedom'. Ever heard of it? Well I'll have you know that pollution is a human right! It grows the economy! What are we, a bunch of browns?"
Climate Stalin slams his comically large judges' gavel: "death penalty"
This isn't exactly a big revelation or anything.
I built machinery for plastics recycling for 7 years. The plastics producers were extremely picky about what could be ground down into pellets to be evacuated to the beginning of the injection molding process. To my knowledge, about 99% of what was being "recycled" as they call it, were "in-house" plastics. Basically material that never leaves the manufacturing facility it's created in. This could be just about anything that doesn't meet QA standards. So like, your product has a big bulge in it, or it's the wrong density, color, etc. I've seen our granulators in action when I did service, and you wouldn't believe how much needs to be re-made. There was a dude with a sawzall who's whole job was to cut the tops off these big containers, and load them in the granulator. 3 shifts in a row there was someone doing this, 24/7.
This is getting beside the point but I do know that a little bit of the wrong color dye getting into the granulator would ruin the whole batch, and it would go to waste. So no, there's no way that big piles of random garbage are getting turned back into re-usable plastics, unless the recycling facilities are doing something different or have some sort of equipment I'm not aware of. I know they don't buy any granulators.
It's a bit of an open secret in my county that al recycling goes to the dump anyway. They don't even try for easy stuff like cardboard. Same as a lot of places in the US.
Nah nobody deserves to be flayed alive, just shoot them in the head and torch the bodies.
How about a compromise, we inject them with a comically large syringe of concentrated microplastics.
For science :solidarity:
Can I be the one injecting and have the task make it so it's mandatory for me to say "woopsie oopsie sowone is suwuffering cowonsequences of der actions" in a very cutesy voice whenever I start the injection? I know some people may think this for of mental torture is too great, but I think it's justified.
The modern version of the death of Marcus Licinius Crassus where they poured molten gold down his throat.
The only reason I agree with you is because instead of flaying, I'd simply load every single rat bastard who pushed the recycling con into brazen bulls, as a warning to the next.
Climate Town - A fun, environmentalist (and obv consequently anticapitalist) channel that made a popular video precisely on how plastic recycling is a scam.. 3 years ago. The video does a good job of making it clear just how plastic manufacturers deliberately lied and misled people to pretend plastics is at all meaningfully recyclable.
Real question is what took news media so long?
Fucking Maddox had a Best Page in the Universe article about it in like 2002 and he's an idiot
oh god no the memories are coming back
My internet poisoned brain thought content in the other meaning at first.
i forgot all about that bozo
My parents know a Tory MP and he admitted all this to our faces decades ago. It's outrageous and it's been known about for decades
Not just the manufacturers. The complicity of governments, schools, NGOs promoting recycling. Staggering. Turns out everyone at the top knew it was bollocks. They created a mass cult of worshipping a triangular arrow god. All those thousands and thousands of hours teaching kids to recycle. All those thousands of gallons of hot mf water used to clean dirty recyclables. Only to chuck the stuff in a deep hole. All that time, we could've been doing something pragmatic, all those decades we could've been teaching kids something that has some meaning. Wasted.
In "canada" we've been packing our recycling onto barges and dumping them on the beaches of defenseless pacific island countries for years.
the imperial core even outsources its waste so it can blame the periphery for being more wasteful.
and this is on top of outsourcing production to places like China, and then blaming them for carbon emissions. Like Vijay Prashad said, "try to produce it in your own countries, and see your carbon emissions rise."
Oh nice so there's actually 100% no point in sorting the container recycling here? At work they make a big thing about sorting plastics properly, but the way my work does it versus the apartment down the street seems random; work puts tin cans and other metal right in with small plastics, whereas certain apartments separate plastic and metal. Does it all just go into the trash anyway?
I'm pretty sure tin cans are the exception, maybe glass too. Those can be recycled if the will is there. Idk if it actually is or not, but yeah, we've been caught dumping our recycling in other countries plenty of times. One even sent it back lol
Aluminum is extremely recyclable.
Usually corporations want you to sort the recycling because they will get charged a fee by the pickup company if they don't
Lol ours just don't take the bins sometimes if we don't
Please, we need Climate Stalin.
Local news here did a fun little thing where they bought 3 pallets of recycle plastic and put trackers in them. They ended up getting thrown into the landfill, not even shipped to another place just to the trash
we may have to start making excuses for the lack of terror
I've known this for years. I still put it in the recycle bin for some reason. a compulsive behavior that i don't really believe in which nevertheless brings me comfort. almost religious. there was a cracked video that made fun of this a while back.
It's like a mental harm reduction thing, maybe? At least papers and metals can be recycled maybe?
Metal and glass are the most recyclable. Paper can be, but a lot of them get covered in plastic which makes it harder, and the fibres deteriorate over time (e.g. tissue and toilet paper are the last cycle, better to compost). Grease can prevent paper from being recycled but apparently makes excellent compost so that's where your pizza box goes.
Large bits of plastic that are clearly labelled can be recycled, but it's a huge amount of effort for small bits. Plastics melt/soften at different temperatures and react to different solvents, so if you get a giant plastic bag with bits of foam, bottles etc. It's a lot of labour that could be spent elsewhere. Also, a lot of plastic is soiled with food oils, bits of leftover milk, etc which you need to remove even if you do want to recycle. Easier to just crush and export.
With recycling, when reading all the conditions in which they can't recycle, I always thought "so basically, you never recycle?"
What good's a single drop against the currents of the ocean?
Will anything be done though? Yea...
That's a chore crossed off my list then. I feel a little silly for not knowing this
Metal and glass recycling are still real!
German Democratic Republic is said to have invented large scale glass recycling as we know it, in order to cope with shortages of material and fuel
just a hypothetical speculation, but what is the most sustainable material with which to make something like a model kit? is resin better than plastic for the environment? wood or brass seem like they would have their own problems but may be better.
It depends on what you mean by sustainable, it can mean a lot of different things.
In terms of CO2 production, plastics really can't be beat at the moment. Their weight relative to other materials makes them cost significantly less CO2 to ship.
In terms of biodegradability, we have composable plastics like PLA but you're not going to get the properties you want in terms of strength.
If you make a model kit with biodegradable plastic but you have to buy 5 of them instead of 1 because they keep breaking, using ABS is more sustainable in my opinion.
You can do wood sculpting, but I imagine its more expensive. We used to do pewter miniatures a little, but they're harder to assemble and scratch paint.
Honestly, miniatures are a long form low volume use of plastic and are a drop in the ocean compared to single use packaging, even if the plastic is the same. I believe 40k minis are polystyrene which is the same plastic you see workers crushing down at the end of a grocery fill shift.
