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[–] [email protected] 170 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Not saying the OP was banned fairly, but to do the devil's advocate, there's people with PHD in biology or medicine who still don't believe in Evolution. You can always find idiots with PHDs, even in their chosen fields.

[–] [email protected] 101 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I'll go ahead and say OP was probably banned fairly, judging solely by the fact that he willingly posts threads on 4chan

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Anon probably used slurs and got banned for that

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (13 children)

Something like 1/5 of pharmacists believe homeopathy works. How the fuck can you go through that training and still believe in a hyperdilution that's magic if you shake it the right way and never ever touch it with your fingers because that takes the magic away?

(For those who are unfamiliar I'm not even being facetious, this is what homeopaths actually believe)

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Totally, everyone who continued to a PhD in my area was batshit insane. Entirely fuckin deranged but diligent enough to write thousands of words of cogent garbage that no one could be bothered contesting.

Isn't there some stat that PhD students have 3x the mental health issues than undergrads? Which nowadays is like 100% lol

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago

Isn’t there some stat that PhD students have 3x the mental health issues than undergrads? Which nowadays is like 100% lol

Given that academia is an absolutely grueling and downright soul-crushing career, I am not surprised only those with mental issues are wild enough to sustain it.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (4 children)

You misunderstood the statistic. Mental health issues are caused/exacerbated by academia not the other way around. Many of my cohort and friends were bullied, harassed, abused, taken advantage of by supervisors and senior academic staff who often have unreasonable demands and expect blinding unquestioning allegiance.

People who run research groups are not selected for based on their people skills but rather academic performance/pedigree, which is the biggest issue IMO.

Academia is a tough gig. Peer review and thesis chairs perform the review of candidates work, trust me they are almost always contested to varying degrees.

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[–] [email protected] 110 points 9 months ago (22 children)

Let's not pretend we're in any better of a situation. Same exact thing could happen on any Lemmy server, especially since each server is a small fiefdom run by randos.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's already happening. People with no clue what they're talking about starting fights

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Like when people start commenting on the near-east conflict. Hardly anyone knows what the fuck is going on there yet we find many experts on the topic in the comments.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Self-propelled multipurpose couch "EXPERT"

  • Crew: 1-6 strategists

(or 8 if not too fat)

  • TOP SECRET!

Fuel tank

24*0.5l, 2500 comments on full tank. Possible installation of additional tank.

Air bag[safety pillow]

Optical caterpillars

Provide speed up to 100Mbps

Teflon seat for couch driver

Protects pillow from combusting

Containers of dynamic protection against enemy cat

Missle silo cover

Three couch-internet missles

Can hit/penetrate to the soul any opponent

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 9 months ago (16 children)

I left Reddit after the fuck spez debacle and haven't looked back. I occasionally go to reddit through Google for some specific things. But I don't log in or engage in the content besides reading what I was looking for. And I use my ad blocker so that dickward spez doesn't get anything from me.

But yeah I suppose this is more about mods. They think they have so much power at the end of they day it's a fucking forum, that is not much power.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 9 months ago (2 children)

As an expert on everything I find the Internet constantly frustrating.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Op probably does not have a PHD. He posted a stupid opinion and got down voted for it, and ran to 4chan because he was sad.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago

Everyone on 4chan has a PHD and a active social life.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Gotta cite your facts when it's about such controversial facts.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago (5 children)

In Reddit it doesn't really matter. You can cite the best sources ever, use a pristine logic, and the local irrationals will still find some excuse to believe in whatever.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Just like literally everywhere else

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The other key factor is to not be an insufferable dickhead when you’re posting. You can post the truest facts known to man but if you come across as a smug asshole then people will naturally be inclined to think your wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago (15 children)

You probably won't get banned or rate limited

[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

I was threatened with a ban because I commented on a Harry Potter book being burned, saying that it was ironic that crazy Fundamentalists (who believe magic is real and evil) and people who don't support TERF assholes somehow share this one, random cause.

The reason for the removal and the threat of a ban was something to the extent of "Hurr-Durr, mah both sides" which... oh, my head, the bad reading comprehension there.

It was not on any LGBTQ+ or trans specific instance, either. It was, like, memes (edit: it was 196).

Point is, there's dumb people who want to abuse power everywhere, in every group, and always will be. Even the best causes and best groups. Especially in the worst causes and worst groups, though. I'M NOT BOTH-SIDES-ING, DON'T BAN ME.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

crazy Fundamentalists (who believe magic is real and evil) and people who don't support TERF assholes somehow share this one, random cause

You literally made me laugh out loud. Well done.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 9 months ago (29 children)

Don’t fuck with the hive mind. Many a time I’ve taken a reasonable, well-thought out and even sourced opinion and been downvoted to shit.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Meh, it’s always how you present the arguments. Regardless of being right or wrong, if OP comes off as dickish, it’s gonna get downvoted.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 9 months ago (1 children)

be me

go to reddit

lie about my credentials

start a fight

eventually just start insulting everyone

"Y GOT B&???!!!"

scurry back to racism and CP board

complain

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Nah, this shit is real. I've seen it. Once the piling on starts it becomes hard to turn the ship around though I've seen it happen. People are morons and they follow the crowd. They see the downvote, and like chicken, they peck at it because others did the same.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago (11 children)

OP might not have a PhD but this stuff happens a lot on reddit. A lot of people here on Lemmy have an IT background and would get a rude shock looking at some of the dominant opinions on the major technology-related subreddits, particularly those that are heavily astroturfed.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

It hits like this when people with a pure CS or IT background start talking about the humanities or literally anything not purely tech-related.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, they could just have posted sources to their claims instead of just playing the self-authority card the whole time.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, but users on reddit don't read sources, and that gets people frustrated and bored. Especially on /science or /askscience. Those subs are shitholes.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago (4 children)

It could also be about your tone. People will downvote you just because you sound like an asshole.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (9 children)

The modlog is such a great feature of lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

1,000% agree. Almost as if it's designed to be used by a community of people working together and not by a ruling class deciding what's permissible and nonpermissable for the peasants who are blessed to exist on their server 🙂.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Being an expert in any arena is fucking annoying when you have to deal with idiots.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Oh yeah, I am an expert in my arena as well (been a Secutor for almost 15yrs) and I have to constantly deal with these idiots.

"Oh, I'm a Murmillo, look at me!" Bitch you can't even see out that damn helmet.

"Hurr Durr, I'm a super cool Dimachaerus." Most people can't properly fight with a sword and you're gonna use two?

So I completely get you.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago (21 children)

The same happened to me on Lemmy. I brought evidence, they brought anecdotes, and I was the "loser" of the discussion according to the hive

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (3 children)

What you say is never as important as how you say it. I noticed that if I came off as a self-righteous dickhead, people would disagree with me out of principle and if the person was still wrong they'd bring neutral "Sure, but" arguments to avoid the same thing happening to them.

The only time you can be a jackass is if you do it in a funny way or the person is so far gone it's the equivalent of default dancing on their grave.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (4 children)

All that matters is whether you’re speaking for or against the prevailing assumptions of the site/the subreddit. Most people on the internet are not experts on the topic but somehow already have their minds made up.

Also, Lemmy is not better than Reddit in this regard. Dominant opinion > everything else.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Average internet interaction be like:

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Reddit is great for watching communities being radicalized. Wehther they do it themselves or they get a psyops push is up to everyone's guess but I've watched it several times.

SRS: Started out as a community pointing out misoginy and racism, ended up as a very weird hate group. I didn't watch it that closely, only saw the result.

some tumbler centered sub i followed, I forgot the name: same story, started quite light hearted, making fun of stupid shit said by kids on tumbler, turned into a right wing hategroup. This one I witnessed. They ran out of material quick, started posting lame shit but now they gave it their own, made up context in the comments. After a while, people who pointed out obvious satire got downvoted.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Happens everywhere where there's voting involved. Convincing argument I feel sounds right > argument that's actually right.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Quite often when I see the person who is "technically correct" getting down voted heavily there's usually at least one of several other factors coming into play that would easily explain the down votes.

For instance they edited their comment to add something like "Edit: The down votes just prove I'm right", they're being uncivil or disproportionately aggressive, they're resorting to logical fallacies and arguing around the other people instead of debating with them, or they're just adding confrontational/controversial hot takes in a community that doesn't embrace that type of thing.

And honestly, you can be totally factually correct 100% of the time, but still be a drain on the community or take down the quality of a sub. If mostly all you are doing is punching down on ignorant people instead of building bridges and leading them to the factually correct conclusions, then you are probably a drain on the community and discussion. If you're basically doing nothing but feeding the trolls, then you're also helping to undermine the quality of the sub.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

To be fair, it was only in the last couple years that it became that bad. It's still better than Elon's white nationalist vehicle of a social media site.

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