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[–] [email protected] 82 points 11 months ago (7 children)

I wonder if it has anything to do with inequality and the eroding of mainstreet America in favor of a winner-take-all economy that uses compound interest as a weapon?

No, it's the voters who are wrong.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Other countries aren't as violent or try to overthrow elections either.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

And if a coup happens in South America, there's a good chance the CIA is behind it.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago (12 children)

But how? This would be like 1.65 mass shootings each day ‽

[–] [email protected] 50 points 11 months ago (6 children)

They're happening so often you don't even notice them most of the time.

This is what dystopia looks like.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

They’re happening so often you don’t even notice them most of the time.

We don't notice them most of the time because they are street crimes happening a thousand miles away that have no impact on our daily lives.

A bunch of thugs shooting each other outside of a club in Houston have no impact on someone living in Council Bluffs, Iowa.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Amazes me how many Americans justify systemic bullshit by writing people off as "thugs".

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"mass shooting" usually means one shooter and multiple people hit. So a drunk, mad guy at a party who pulls out a gun and shoots 3 people will count towards the number but probably not make it past local news. Not every mass shooting is a school shooting or terrorist attack, but those get the most attention.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is this supposed to make us feel better? Because it’s still batshit insane.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They’ve become so common, they’re mostly unreported now unless they’re unusual in some way, like the Maine shooting by a Guardsman who was watched by law enforcement for months in advance.

Yes, mass shootings in the US have become mundane.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I'm starting to feel like I was right by not wanting to move to the USA. Like, sure, the tech salaries here are 2-3x lower, but I'm more than 2-3x less likely to die in a shooting so I think it balances out a little bit.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

They have become so common, they are no longer newsworthy. You'll need to kill at least ten now for your 15 minutes of fame.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

Pretty much...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

But how? This would be like 1.65 mass shootings each day ‽

It's because 99% of these mass shootings aren't spree shooters in a school or public place. What pushes the number so high is street type stuff; shootings outside a bar or club, rival gangs shooting at each other, or drug deals gone wrong.

You can see it for yourself by pulling up the Mass Shooting List over at the GVA and then clicking through to review the incidents.

Here's an example to get you started.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

We really need a new definition for these because it doesn't line up with how people think about them, and as a result the stats are easy to ignore.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I mean, when you have to kill two dozen people to make the headlines, a lot of them go under the radar.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Hopefully whatever government rises up from the ashes of the US after its inevitable downfall will put gun control in the constitution.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago

Americans when they can't have wars:

Oh yhe, -brings wars into schools

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Some supporting and related information.

An Examination of US School Mass Shootings, 2017–2022: Findings and Implications

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s41252-022-00277-3

Objectives

Gun violence in the USA is a pressing social and public health issue. As rates of gun violence continue to rise, deaths resulting from such violence rise as well. School shootings, in particular, are at their highest recorded levels. In this study, we examined rates of intentional firearm deaths, mass shootings, and school mass shootings in the USA using data from the past 5 years, 2017–2022, to assess trends and reappraise prior examination of this issue.

Methods

Extant data regarding shooting deaths from 2017 through 2020 were obtained from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, the web-based injury statistics query and reporting system (WISQARS), and, for school shootings in particular (2017–2022), from Everytown Research & Policy.

Results

The number of intentional firearm deaths and the crude death rates increased from 2017 to 2020 in all age categories; crude death rates rose from 4.47 in 2017 to 5.88 in 2020. School shootings made a sharp decline in 2020—understandably so, given the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic and subsequent government or locally mandated school shutdowns—but rose again sharply in 2021.

Conclusions

Recent data suggest continued upward trends in school shootings, school mass shootings, and related deaths over the past 5 years. Notably, gun violence disproportionately affects boys, especially Black boys, with much higher gun deaths per capita for this group than for any other group of youth. Implications for policy and practice are provided.

Trends in mass shootings in the United States (2013–2021): A worsening American epidemic of death

https://doi.org/10.1016/j.amjsurg.2023.03.028

Background

Mass shootings represent a significant problem in the United States (US). This study aimed to examine trends in mass shootings in the US over time.

Methods

Retrospective mass shooting data (1/2013–12/2021) were collected from the Gun Violence Archive. A scatterplot was constructed showing predicted (extrapolated from 2013 to 2019) versus actual total mass shootings in 2020 and 2021. Multivariate linear regressions were performed to evaluate trends in mass shootings over time, associated with gun law strength.

Results

Mass shooting incidents, injuries, and deaths in 2020 and 2021 exceeded extrapolations from previous years. When comparing 2019 to 2020, stronger gun laws were associated with decreased monthly mass shooting deaths. For these same strong gun law states, monthly mass shooting deaths decreased when comparing 2019 to 2021 and comparing 2020 to 2021.

Conclusions

US mass shootings have increased over the past decade. Stronger gun laws appear associated with fewer monthly mass shooting-related deaths. Firearm-related legislation may at least partially, curtail the worsening of this substantial “American problem” of mass shootings.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We’re number one! USA! USA! USA! Pew! Pew! In your face every other country in the world!

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

a record since the Gun Violence Archive began tracking data in 2014.

Not to downplay the situation, but they've only been keeping track for a decade.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

~~But look, how the numbers are rising since 2014 - if it would go the same pace in the other direction, it would mean no mass shootings before around 2008?~~

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Edit: my thinking was crappy...

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

3 days left everyone! We can do this, let's break that record!!

/s

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Take your bow conservatives. This is ALL a result of your cowardice.

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