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[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago (8 children)

But how? This would be like 1.65 mass shootings each day ‽

[–] [email protected] 50 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They're happening so often you don't even notice them most of the time.

This is what dystopia looks like.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

They’re happening so often you don’t even notice them most of the time.

We don't notice them most of the time because they are street crimes happening a thousand miles away that have no impact on our daily lives.

A bunch of thugs shooting each other outside of a club in Houston have no impact on someone living in Council Bluffs, Iowa.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Amazes me how many Americans justify systemic bullshit by writing people off as "thugs".

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yawn, got anything better than middle school ad hominem?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

More observation than ad hominem, unless of course you identify with what is observed.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"mass shooting" usually means one shooter and multiple people hit. So a drunk, mad guy at a party who pulls out a gun and shoots 3 people will count towards the number but probably not make it past local news. Not every mass shooting is a school shooting or terrorist attack, but those get the most attention.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is this supposed to make us feel better? Because it’s still batshit insane.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

No, they were explaining why they don't hear about 1.65 mass shootings every day.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They’ve become so common, they’re mostly unreported now unless they’re unusual in some way, like the Maine shooting by a Guardsman who was watched by law enforcement for months in advance.

Yes, mass shootings in the US have become mundane.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I'm starting to feel like I was right by not wanting to move to the USA. Like, sure, the tech salaries here are 2-3x lower, but I'm more than 2-3x less likely to die in a shooting so I think it balances out a little bit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Emotions are a bitch aren’t they?

Your odds of dying in a shooting are virtually zero unless you hang out in schools for fun. Media wants you to feel this way. Stop being played by the media.

Odds are significantly higher that you’ll die in a car accident or from cancer.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Well the car deaths being on the rise is also a policy failure. We're letting car makers make cars that are better at killing pedestrians. Kind of sounds familiar....

And sure the odds are small I would get involved in a mass shooting, my kids who go to school however literally have school shooting drills.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

They have become so common, they are no longer newsworthy. You'll need to kill at least ten now for your 15 minutes of fame.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

Pretty much...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

But how? This would be like 1.65 mass shootings each day ‽

It's because 99% of these mass shootings aren't spree shooters in a school or public place. What pushes the number so high is street type stuff; shootings outside a bar or club, rival gangs shooting at each other, or drug deals gone wrong.

You can see it for yourself by pulling up the Mass Shooting List over at the GVA and then clicking through to review the incidents.

Here's an example to get you started.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

We really need a new definition for these because it doesn't line up with how people think about them, and as a result the stats are easy to ignore.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

The point is to lump school shootings and terrorist shootings in with random personal dispute shootings and gang violence shootings.

That way you hear about all these mass shootings and think that ~30,000 firearms deaths per year are mass shootings instead of ~2/3 suicides, ~500 "accidental", ~1,500 police, and up to 80% of the remainder being hood business. Actual mass shootings are a tiny number of firearms deaths and they are the poster child for the problem.

The majority of firearms deaths can be solved with healthcare reform, economic reform, and rebuilding the American community.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

When the language doesn't fit the mold, I admit the first impression is to get them excluded. But even when gangs only intend to hurt each other, it's very easy for them to kill innocent bystanders.

I'm adamant that things like suicides should not be excluded from gun statistics. Many people who've attempted via knives/pills have survived, and gone on to say they regret their attempt and bounced back.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

I mean, when you have to kill two dozen people to make the headlines, a lot of them go under the radar.