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I didn’t think you could make this shit up, honestly

My sister works as a contractor and has run-ins with private schools occasionally and whatever you’ve heard about these parents, it’s worse than you can possibly imagine. I never would’ve thought someone would be so proud of the fact that they treat their children like pawns and clearly something to check off on a life list or some bullshit.

I am struggling to wrap my mind around it. In the year 2023, it is common to ask two dating people when they plan to get married and have kids. Which alone wouldn’t be a bad thing, but these questions are so fucking ominous now that I have this knowledge. Fuuuuuuuck me

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

My parents had a scheme when I was a kid to raise me into wealth, but they believed in the whole "get good grades and you'll be rich." So they tried for a while, taught me multiplication tables when I was like 4, taught me world history and stuff. I could read and write way before I started school. I could even use a computer, which was a rare skill for even adults back then. I did become fairly advanced by the time I was 6 and the school district offered to let me test out of grades 3 and 4. (Parents didn't like that idea since they said I wouldn't be able to network as well if I skipped grades)

Problem is my parents were racist, unprepared, and not too bright themselves, so their lessons didn't last much further than 3rd grade. They exhausted what they knew, so my grades dropped fast because of anxiety and pressure. Also I'm not actually smart or motivated

The attempt to get my grades higher always centered around them. They wanted me to become rich to buy them a house and nice cars. They wanted me to be on TV so I could praise them in front of crowds. Elon Musk wasn't famous yet, but they wanted me to be him in every possible way, including the racist parts. That's what they would always describe, they wanted me to be a business scientist rocket engineer, except not an idiot fraud like Musk. I think part of this scheme was motivated by how my parents were the poorest of all their siblings. I was from the "poor" branch of the family, so it must have been embarrassing for them to show up to family gatherings and our uncle is showing off his new boat, or our aunt has a new diamond necklace. Then my parents are there driving the same truck they had in high school

Nowadays we don't talk much. Their plan failed and also I'm a communist

[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"get good grades and you'll be rich."

Yeah, a lot of energy gets poured into that pipe dream. Sorry you went through all that heart-sickle

the "poor" branch of the family

I know exactly what you're talking about and I've always found it so wild that we are that atomized that peoole don't even help their families and just accept this as natural. I know why it is, and i know yhe US is and has been that atomized for a long time. Intellectually i get it, but i can never get it emotionally. It'll never make sense to me

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I know exactly what you're talking about and I've always found it so wild that we are that atomized that peoole don't even help their families and just accept this as natural. I know why it is, and i know yhe US is and has been that atomized for a long time. Intellectually i get it, but i can never get it emotionally. It'll never make sense to me

My dad's side of the family comes from above average wealth. They own property all over the west coast, house or two -in- San Francisco, multiple cares, river boat property+boat and so much more. Like legitimate wealth and plenty of it. I never understood how I could go visit my wealthy Grandma in Georgia yet we always had to deal with having no clothes/ broken shoes and a scrap of dignity. How could anyone look at our family and just say "yea that's normal"? Even as a kid, I could see my dad already broke down and debased his dignity to stay alive and keep the family floating along. It stings because looking back even now, I hate that side of the family even more. They convinced my dad he deserved it.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

As a newly married person, being asked if we’re trying to have kids is fucking weird to us.

“Congratulations! So are you nutting raw?”

Little do they know, my balls don’t work anymore lmao.

But yeah, the general public at large is very much just following a script and checking off boxes on the life bingo card.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Tell them you're an anal-only couple.

Probably will stop the questions.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You sometimes see strange people online call others "genetic dead ends" as an insult, and it always strikes me that these people have a view of life itself that is so completely alien to me.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Some sciencey person told me once that after a couple or three generations, there’s nothing discernible of “you” left in your descendants. All these weirdos who think they’re fucking Charlemagne and building a fAmiLY LeGaCy or something don’t get that whether you have kids or not, when you’re gone you’re gone.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Not only that, but think about how little the average person knows or cares about their great great grandparents. That's going to be everyone in a few generations. Familial legacy is a lie.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Some sciencey person told me once that after a couple or three generations, there’s nothing discernible of “you” left in your descendants

11th century nobility in shambles rn

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

I think if you just keep marrying cousins the math looks different

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

That shit always pisses me off. Like when people go "oh I don't have kids but my sister does. So my genes live on" bro my genes are in some of the worst people i have met they are not the part of me I want to live on.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

wonder if those folks even know what DNA stands for

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

"I'm only asking you once."

peppino-shotgun

"Where is the Deoxyribonucleic base?"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Da nut ayyy!

[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I don’t want my intentions to be misconstrued. I am not at all anti-child. I am very much anti-have a kid for the sake of producing a nuclear family and neglecting your children. Is that not the epitome of patriarchal conservatism?

Should have also added that this post stemmed from a mother (kids in private school) who said she was going to send her kids to a babysitter for the holidays so she and her husband could have peace

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

send her kids to a babysitter for the holidays so she and her husband could have peace

i dunno that's kinda gigachad

hope she likes the worst possible home when it's her kids turn to clap back

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (2 children)

A lot of women in my family have kids out of loneliness. It’s a terrible idea, but at the same time I understand the motivation.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago

It’s a sad cycle: grow up in dysfunctional family, escape only to be confronted with crushing loneliness, have a kid who grows up in dysfunctional family…

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that’s super valid

The types of people I was referring to in this post were those who have kids to secure the white race and educate children in private schools that treat them like shit and go home to be treated like shit—the types of people who see women only having utility in a traditional patriarchal sense.

This is just as much an anti-charter schools argument as anything else, honestly. Needless to say though, shit is looking grim for the future of amerikkka

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What’s great is that treating your kids like shit is the guaranteed #1 way to turn them against everything you believe in.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago

Private School parents are some of the worst people imaginable and they all work in the most ghoulish fields. Went to a private school and majority of these kids would talk about how their parents went out to golf after work and not come home until late at night. I'm not privileged either. I only got in on an athletic scholarship after a scout saw me running and wanted me for his team.

The questions as to whether or not my partner and I will be having kids have grown worse since we got engaged. My country is very conservative and being past 25 unmarried without kids will lead people to think something's wrong with you.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago

I'll love them unconditionally but also I'm going to brainwash them into creating a revolutionary army

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago

Yeah they do, my """""mother""""" was one.

She viewed children as pets and property. We were there to serve her financially and emotionally, and she had friends who viewed their children the same way.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago

reading this thread has made me feel much more confident i'd be a good parent. lotta ppl out there having kids who absolutely are not emotionally mature enough for it lol

Death to America

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago

wow, just a portion? we are surrounded by them and it's fucking disgusting

"what do you mean by 'you should treat your child as a human and not force them to do exactly what you want without caring about their opinions'?" can summarize most of the conversations we have had with people like this

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (7 children)

We need a portion of the population that wants kids as communist drones to balance it out

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

Have been singing Rossa Palestina and L'International to both my kids for the past 2 years. My daughter has even begun singing along to it. Also for some reason she enjoys the German version quite a lot, which I don't understand at all but hey im-doing-my-part

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Yeah I've seen people like that, at least 2 in my family too. I could talk shit about my parents parenting all day, but at least they recognized me as a person and not some property.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

The Venn diagram of these freaks and Quiverfull freaks is just a circle. Absolutely terrifying shit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

this is my dad

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Or free labor while you condition them to be comfortable selling their own labor

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Probably not, not exactly. Because having a child is clearly a bad investment.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (11 children)

When you make a child you have to keep track of how much money you spend on them, from conception all the way through adulthood. when they turn 18 you hand them the bill, with interest and accounting for inflation. It doesn't have to be a bad investment!

spoilerwhat do we post to indicate sarcasm when it might not be obvious? i don't want to do /s because that's reddit shit but idk

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

we don't do that here because we're not cowards

you indicate sarcasm by posting better sarcasm

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

I like when people use the smug emojis for that like smuglord berdly-smug alphys-smug flowey-smug

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yea, if you're a common fool or typical rube. The more tax advantageous way is to structure all child expenses as losses.

BTW you're supposed buy and use SarcMark™

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Emojis can help express emotion or intent sometimes. And as far as Reddit shit goes I think /s is pretty good and useful.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (8 children)

/s is like peter griffin explaining a bad joke immediately after the joke is told

If you need to mark your sarcasm then you have poorly structured your sarcastic remark

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