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[–] 119 points 2 years ago (4 children)

conflating zionism and judaism is antisemitic

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    [–] 93 points 2 years ago

    "the two parties are becoming too polarized"

    the two parties:

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  • [–] 82 points 2 years ago

    "I John Brown am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away, but with Blood. I had... vainly flattered myself that without very much bloodshed, it might be done."

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  • [–] 71 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This shit genuinely makes me feel insane. This is like legislating the sky is lemon merangue pie levels of crazy.

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  • [–] 70 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    fuckin PRESENT?! that's fucked from rep tlaib

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  • [+] 60 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
    [–] 56 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Wow, my rep is actually on the right side of something for once. I absolutely don't want to know his reasoning for voting no because I'm sure it's unhinged.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago*

    Thomas Massie has been consistently against any of the symbolic declarations of support for Israel for a while, to the point where AIPAC tried to run a smear campaign against him with his face in a black and white poster with the Words "Jew Hater" written underneath. I think he responded by declaring it election interference, but nothing came of it (obviously) but the guy somehow managed to stay seated.

    Edit: Misspelled the freaks name

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

    Edit: I was wrong fucking stupid reasoning.

    Critical support either way. Somebody has the balls to stand up to aipac at least.

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  • [–] 43 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    you do not, under any circumstances, gotta hand it to a libertarian US senator. he supports Israel's "right to exist," he just doesn't think it's antisemitic to disagree. average libertarian contrarian tantrum where he affirms all the premises of the institutions but rejects one of the conclusions based on a piddling technicality, thereby ensuring that everyone yells at him and he preserves his outsider veneer without actually having to affect anything or stand for something.

    basically the right wing version of Bernie.

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  • [–] 56 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Wow it turns out the rabbis against zionism were actually antisemites all along! galaxy-brain

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP) is a radical anti-Israel and anti-Zionist activist group that advocates for the boycott of Israel and eradication of Zionism.

    JVP does not represent the mainstream Jewish community, which it views as bigoted for its association with Israel. JVP’s staunch anti-Zionist positions place it squarely in opposition to mainstream American Jews and Jews worldwide, most of whom view a connection with Israel as an integral part of their social, cultural or religious Jewish identities. JVP promulgates the view that Jews who identify even tangentially with Israel are motivated by white supremacy, Jewish racial chauvinism and religious supremacism.

    https://www.adl.org/resources/blog/jewish-voice-peace-jvp-what-you-need-know

    how good is gatekeeping a cultural identity in order to preserve a genocidal settler colony?

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  • [–] 51 points 2 years ago* (9 children)

    Genocidal settler bastards. Death to Amerika, death to Israel, death to the Five-Eyed Empire; a thousand times, til there's no more air in my lungs to speak it and beyond

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    [–] 49 points 2 years ago* (20 children)

    Here is the text of the bill so you can read it for yourself.

    H. Res. 888 - In the House of Representatives, U. S.,

    November 28, 2023.

    Whereas the Jewish people are native to the Land of Israel;

    Whereas throughout history and across the reign of multiple kingdoms, the Jewish people were persecuted and expelled from the Land of Israel, forced to live as minority diaspora communities in other lands;

    Whereas Jewish diaspora communities were historically violently persecuted in, and in some cases expelled from, other countries throughout the Middle East, Europe, Africa, and Asia due to their religion;

    Whereas the Nazis attempted to annihilate the entire Jewish population of Europe during the Holocaust, murdering 6,000,000 Jews during this time;

    Whereas this genocide provided new urgency to re-establish a Jewish homeland for the Jewish people following the Holocaust, where they would not be a vulnerable minority, where they could freely practice their faith, and where something like the Holocaust could never happen again;

    Whereas the modern State of Israel was established on May 14, 1948;

    Whereas even after the establishment of the State of Israel, other countries and terrorist entities continued to attack Israel, reject its right to exist, and call for its destruction; and

    Whereas Israel is the only Jewish State, and therefore, despite persistent external threats, the existence of Israel provides Jews a place to live free from persecution and discrimination: Now, therefore, be it

    Resolved, That the House of Representatives—

    (1) reaffirms the State of Israel’s right to exist;

    (2) recognizes that denying Israel’s right to exist is a form of antisemitism;

    (3) rejects calls for Israel’s destruction and the elimination of the only Jewish State; and

    (4) condemns the Hamas-led terrorist attack on Israel.

    https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2023677
    https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-resolution/888/text

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  • [–] 50 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    i thought these people went to expensive schools why the fuck does every line start with WHEREAS fucking hell

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago*

    Whereas Jewish diaspora communities were historically violently persecuted in, and in some cases expelled from, other countries throughout the Middle East, Europe, Africa, and Asia due to their religion;

    We've never been persecuted or expelled in North America though.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago

    Native groups need to take this up, the exact language can certainly apply (and in their case the documentation is a few hundred years old and well agreed upon, vs based on mythology that certainly doesn't apply to Ashkenazi jews at the very least). Unfortunately logical consistency isn't a winning argument so it wouldn't do much.

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    [+] 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
    [–] 37 points 2 years ago* (9 children)

    In passing the resolution, the House pronounced the “right of the Jewish people to live peacefully in their native land,” Lawler said.

    Fundamentally impossible to live "peacefully" when you're actively carrying out a genocide, but what do I expect from these ghouls.

    Edit: Also, found the full thing. What a fucking joke. On the upside, I guess it doesn't do anything material?

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Of course the colonizer caucazoid ghouls would say that; look at where the Anglo cracker barbarians come from

    [wild gesticulating at the ENTIRE HISTORY OF AMERIKA'S FOUNDING.]

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    [–] 35 points 2 years ago

    But you have to vote for Joe Biden next year or else the Republicans might do something bad. They might arrest you for activist activity under a false pretense!

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Did Ilhan Omar really vote yes?

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    house has 538 435 members and this only adds up to 414 votes... I'm guessing (hoping) she didn't show up

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    [–] 31 points 2 years ago

    Infinite 9/11s on America and Israel

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    kek they're literally signing into law that a word means something else now

    we need more stupid retconned fanfiction names for mayos, semitic and caucasian and aryan isn't enough.

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    [–] 30 points 2 years ago

    Sending jews to Israel to be cannon fodder for the empire? Yeah, that's not antisemitism.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    There was some sort of resolution a couple years ago that “condemned socialism” that had like 98% of reps voting for it. When the US politicians are all in alignment against you, you are probably doing something right.

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    [–] 26 points 2 years ago

    you can expect this as long as AIPAC's checks keep clearing and they aren't forcibly disbanded for being the malicious foreign agents of a nuclear-armed rouge state that they really are

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    I want to see how the anti Zionist Jews react to this.

    Every politician who is a zionist must be called out as a genocidal racist fascist supporting an aparthied state and voted out. Zionism is incapable with American values. Jews don't need Israel. They can live anywhere in the anglosphere just fine. America needs war and oil profits. This "way of life" and "common interests" must be challenged loudly and openly.

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    can anyone link more information on this? I'm not finding any votes that match at house.gov

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago*

    It looks like this resolution is what its referencing

    Summary:

    This resolution reaffirms Israel's right to exist. It also (1) recognizes that denying Israel's right to exist is a form of antisemitism; (2) rejects calls for Israel's destruction; and (3) condemns the Hamas-led attack on Israel.

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    Whereas the Jewish people are native to the Land of Israel;

    Whereas throughout history and across the reign of multiple kingdoms, the Jewish people were persecuted and expelled from the Land of Israel, forced to live as minority diaspora communities in other lands;

    Whereas Jewish diaspora communities were historically violently persecuted in, and in some cases expelled from, other countries throughout the Middle East, Europe, Africa, and Asia due to their religion;

    Whereas the Nazis attempted to annihilate the entire Jewish population of Europe during the Holocaust, murdering 6,000,000 Jews during this time;

    Whereas this genocide provided new urgency to re-establish a Jewish homeland for the Jewish people following the Holocaust, where they would not be a vulnerable minority, where they could freely practice their faith, and where something like the Holocaust could never happen again;

    Whereas the modern State of Israel was established on May 14, 1948;

    Whereas even after the establishment of the State of Israel, other countries and terrorist entities continued to attack Israel, reject its right to exist, and call for its destruction; and

    Whereas Israel is the only Jewish State, and therefore, despite persistent external threats, the existence of Israel provides Jews a place to live free from persecution and discrimination: Now, therefore, be it

    Resolved, That the House of Representatives—

    (1) reaffirms the State of Israel’s right to exist;

    (2) recognizes that denying Israel’s right to exist is a form of antisemitism;

    (3) rejects calls for Israel’s destruction and the elimination of the only Jewish State; and

    (4) condemns the Hamas-led terrorist attack on Israel. Attest:

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