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So, an adult?

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[-] hollowmines@hexbear.net 26 points 4 days ago

I'm 39 and dating a 27 y/o (no apps were involved, she's my neighbour). It's my first time engaging with this sort of age gap, and I'm not a huge fan of that aspect of the relationship - in fact we were both somewhat hesitant at first due to that factor and some other key demographic differences. We share a lot of the same sensibilities and politics, but her being in a somewhat different stage of life socially speaking does create some friction, along with the minor but real behavioural differences. Anyway, it's been about 11 mos on and off (mostly on) and it seems to be going well, but I would still describe the age gap as a recurring source of low-level, occasional conflict I think we could both live without.

[-] ColonelKataffy@hexbear.net 25 points 4 days ago

i'm 39 and have a bunch of 27 year old friends. we're in different stages of development in our lives, which is abundantly clear every time we hang out. i'm basically the group unc. could see it getting complicated in a romantic relationship for sure

[-] mar_k@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I just don't get why age gaps over a decade almost always seem to involve the man or masc being the older one and the woman or femme being younger. At least like 90-95% of the time

[-] hollowmines@hexbear.net 19 points 4 days ago

I can only speak for cishet dynamics - the most commonly cited reason and I guess most obvious reason is that dudes are thirsty for younger women, but ime the reverse is also often true, either because they've found men in their age bracket to be lacking in some way (take yr pick), or because they have some idea that older men will have their shit more together. (I can confirm this is generally NOT the case but anyway.)

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[-] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago

Have you had to explain to a gathering of her friends how room temperature gazpacho burned your mouth?

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago

This mayo is too spicy, do you have anything more mild?

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 30 points 4 days ago
[-] ConcreteHalloween@hexbear.net 16 points 4 days ago

I get that with like people under 21, but is someone who's been legally able to drink for 3 years really even a "barely an adult" anymore?

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 41 points 4 days ago

I don't really have any context for what exactly the original post is about — I guess some A24 scandal I haven't heard of? — but speaking about age in general, as someone around that mid-20s-ish range, I feel like there's a simultaneous growing infantilization of adults and adultification of children as a result of late crapitalism. I like to call this phenomenon "age soup", the way actual legal adults are so often priced or otherwise shut out of traditional markers of adulthood, at the same time as children are being forced away from child-safe spaces and deprived of typical child things to do, and end up in these surveillance capitalist social media hellscapes where they're marketed to as if they're adults, and exposed to pedos and neo-Nazi recruiters and all sorts of other things that they're just too young for. Basically, the "simultaneous infantilization and adultification" is really just another way of saying that increasingly older people are being increasingly deprived of their independence, and increasingly younger people are being turned into increasingly exploited subjects of capitalist system.

Maybe I'll see things differently a decade from now, but from where I stand, I feel like even many people here are far too willing to buy into this sort of infantilization of adults that's being pushed by the ruling class. And I don't even really know why people here have this tendency to infantilize people my age. I mean, it couldn't be as simple as wanting to see themselves as somehow "above" younger adults, right? I don't think that's it, that doesn't seem in character for most of the people here. And it couldn't be as simple as going this-is-fine when people in their 20s or even 30s can't get jobs, can't afford a car or to move out or anything like that — people on this site are very much aware that things aren't fine, that's literally why we're here. So what is the deal with all the infantilization I see? I mean, surely we all know that all people deserve independence, respect and dignity, that's what we're fighting for. Surely we all know that power dynamics are bound up in tons of different factors which can all be structurally accounted for with some effort.

[-] 389aaa@hexbear.net 34 points 4 days ago

Thank you for typing this all up, it makes me feel like I'm losing it how nobody seems to be bothered with this at all.

I'm newly in the same age range and it's baffling to me how the 'real adult' cultural age marker seems to be a target that's constantly just out of reach. I'm honestly concerned people will start thinking anyone below 30 is a child and should thereby have no rights, at this point.

[-] OffSeasonPrincess@hexbear.net 24 points 4 days ago

is a child and should thereby have no rights

Most ppl refuse to acknowledge that the fact the vast majority of children dont rly have rights or agency in their lives is already massively fucked up, and will only recognize it as such when an adult is treated the way kids are

(We dont mean kids should date adults obvsly, we wouldnt bother w this stupid disclaimer normally but since the post itself is abt dating in this case we wanna make that clear)

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 22 points 4 days ago

I'm honestly concerned that people will start thinking anyone below 40 is a child who doesn't deserve rights!

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 25 points 4 days ago

Indigenous peoples and minorities of all ages have been infantikized and denied agency and rights, so the playbook seems very similar to me. In general, I believe the goal (or the trend, rather) is to deny agency to anyone who doesn't belong to the owner class, so their lives can be controlled economically and with violence, like many children's are.

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 15 points 4 days ago

Absolutely, absolutely. Very important addition!

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 19 points 4 days ago

I could legit see boomer establishment dems wanting to raise the voting age to 40 or 50

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 19 points 4 days ago

Making 35 year olds old enough to run for president while also being too young to vote for president would be a very good bit.

[-] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 18 points 4 days ago

It’s the most extreme example but you need to be 35 to run for president, when I’d trust a random 25 year old over a random 75 year old any day of the week

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I CAN NAME AT LEAST ONE 27 YEAR OLD WHO I KNOW WOULD MAKE A GOOD LEADER OF HIS COUNTRY………

February 1970 photo of Muammar Gaddafi in Belgrade, Yugoslavia, a few months after the 1969 Libyan revolution. He would've been around 27 or 28 at the time.

CAN I GET A "TAMAAM, SAYYIDI"?!

[-] ConcreteHalloween@hexbear.net 16 points 4 days ago

Castro was 32 when the Cuban Revolution ended, Che was 30. Sankara was 33.

[-] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 14 points 4 days ago

What am I doing with my life? kitty-birthday-sad

[-] OffSeasonPrincess@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago

Actually Sankara was 9 when the cuban revolution ended☝️🤓

[-] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 14 points 4 days ago

and it's baffling to me how the 'real adult' cultural age marker seems to be a target that's constantly just out of reach.

In my mid 30s and I feel the exact same way, it's always been a moving set of goalposts.

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Depends on who you ask. Where I live seeing a woman in her 20’s (youngest is usually 23 with the average being closer to 25) with a man over thirty is very common. Not much of a power dynamic

Westerners seem to infantilize people at that age more for some reason.

Edit: I should add that most in that type of age gap relationship are usually poor or indigenous, often both. They’re both stuck at the same stage in their lives because the economic factors have kept them there.

[-] mrfugu@hexbear.net 13 points 4 days ago

24 is the youngest I could consider as an actual adult. Even then I don’t think most people remove their heads from their butts until 26-28 or so

[-] ConcreteHalloween@hexbear.net 15 points 4 days ago

Eh, I was young but when I was 23 I knew what I was doing when it came to sex. I hooked up with older people and knew what I was getting into.

30 year old dudes hitting on 19 year olds are fucking creeps though.

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Eh, I was young but when I was 23 I knew what I was doing when it came to sex. I hooked up with older people and knew what I was getting into.

There's also a sea of difference between making mistakes and dating the wrong people, and being predated upon. Saying "people in their 20s should not date older people because they're children" does nothing to address the issue that could be better solved by teaching people to recognize uneven power dynamics relationships, because those can exist even between people of the same age. Anything else is Puritan generalization.

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 11 points 4 days ago

People jump to calling things puritanical but I don't think the concern here represents puritanical values at all, which are more inclined to view very young women as effectively a prime commodity for marriage arrangements or whatever.

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[-] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 14 points 4 days ago

"Oh, man; do you remember being in school when the Challenger shuttle blew up? ...You weren't born yet? ...You don't know what a space shuttle is?"

[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 27 points 4 days ago

People who were in elementary school when Challenger blew up are now in their late 40s

[-] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Real talk, what was the defining "innocence-shattering news event" for Gen Z and younger? For my generation (Millennials) it was definitely 9/11

[-] 389aaa@hexbear.net 10 points 4 days ago

I have to agree, being Gen Z myself. COVID was a complete killer in both my and a lot of my compatriots faith in humanity.

in addition to that, it was just a massive disruption of day-to-day life and it quite evidently resulted in people becoming more anti-social and feral to each other. There was a massive, widespread psychological change in society

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 16 points 4 days ago

It's going to depend on the country, but for me it was probably the 2011 Norway attacks.

[-] da_gay_pussy_eatah@hexbear.net 11 points 4 days ago

Sandy Hook maybe

[-] ColonelKataffy@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago

besides covid, trump getting elected. gen z were a bunch of kids who grew up under obama, and right as they enter adulthood, surprise, you live in a nazi country

[-] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 13 points 4 days ago
[-] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Seeing MAGA shamans doing the wolololo outside of election officials' offices would be enough to fuck anyone up if they understood what a MAGA shaman or wolololo was

For GenAlpha, it was probably more getting groomed on Roblox and then holding a dying classmate as they bled out during their second or third school shooting ten seconds after COVID lockdown was lifted

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[-] dadarobot@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago

if i was single again, i would never date a women in her 20s. my wife is in her 30s and sometimes i think she is too young and immature for me.

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago

He's doing what the unions wanted.

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[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago

look i was just copying a bit

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[-] Owl@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago

capacitance

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 22 points 4 days ago

I'm so glad this site is coming around to understanding that DiCaprio is just a chill dude and nothing about him continuously pursuing women who are easily young enough to be his daughter is concerning. They are old enough to drink, and as far as he and we are concerned that's really the only factor to consider in terms of anything to do with age (just a number at that point on), and everything else can be shuffled off into vague gesticulations at "power dynamics" that allow us to invent justifications one way or another in any situation short of the most brazen cases of abuse while completely ignoring any other considerations for why people with a habit of pursuing much younger partners might represent a problem.

/s

[-] ConcreteHalloween@hexbear.net 28 points 4 days ago

I think DiCaprio has dated women younger than 21.

Also the real creepy thing with him is that he pretty consistently dumps them after a certain age. There's a big difference between dating someone younger and dating someone cuz they're younger and he's clearly the latter.

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago

The main difference in his case is brazeness, which is not the only thing we should consider.

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[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 21 points 4 days ago

It's the parable of the blind men and the elephant: "Should I be allowed to date someone much older than me?" and "Is there a problem of people pursuing much younger partners as a form of abuse?" can both be answered with yes; however if you're only touching on the one question, some number of people could wrongly infer that the answer to the unadressed question is "no".

I don't think it's really that different from, say, whether trans people should be allowed to date cis people. You can say yes to that, but that doesn't mean you're in favor of chasers abusing people, right? Ultimately, what's important is that people have the knowledge they need to identify people's motives, identify when they're being exploited, build equitable relationships, and keep escapes ready if necessary; that they have friendships and other resources at their disposal so that they can't be isolated; that sort of thing.

[-] humanrogue@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago
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