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[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Socialism is when the government does something

  • Karl Marx
[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 23 points 7 hours ago

Claims to be socialist. Denounces every single AES. Reinforces liberalism. Pushes absolutely nothing left of social democracy.

Really feels like he's been lying about the socialist part.

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 16 points 7 hours ago

Sounds like the average American “socialist.” Thinks it’s only social democracy and knows nothing else beyond that. At least the NATO leftists pretend to know theory

[-] Hestia@hexbear.net 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

The term socialist has been ruined by Americans. If an American calls themself a socialist, they're probably a liberal.

I just play it safe and call myself a communist so people don't get the wrong idea about me.

[-] Chana@hexbear.net 14 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

The Berniefication will continue until morale (liberalism) improves.

[-] micnd90@hexbear.net 29 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Obama's legacy is that Sandy Hook happened and he did nothing. Then he got Trump elected twice

[-] miz@hexbear.net 51 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

WHAT DID HE DELIVER ON? CLOSING GUANTANAMO? STOPPING NSA ABUSES? FUCKING CARD CHECK? ABORTION PROTECTIONS WHICH HE PROMISED PLANNED PARENTHOOD WOULD BE HIS FIRST ACTION DURING THE CAMPAIGN?

HE DIDN'T DELIVER SHIT EXCEPT FOR THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

[-] jack@hexbear.net 20 points 9 hours ago

And you think McCain would've been better?berdly-smug

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 16 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

A lot of libs these days may unironically like McCain more than Obama given how much they fucking glazed him during Trump 1

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 23 points 10 hours ago

it's a good thing none of us are running for office because we wouldn't be able to pander to enough libs to get through.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 17 points 10 hours ago

I could probably do it for a while, but after a year or two i'd just start forming my elite team of Communinjas (Ninjas who are communists) and using them to eliminate all opposition

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 24 points 10 hours ago

There's something to be said about messaging and the fact that most libs still love Obama but you absolutely do NOT have to give him credit for things he didn't do.

[-] MeetMeAtTheMovies@hexbear.net 27 points 11 hours ago

To be honest if the Democrats were putting forward candidates with the charisma of Obama and paying lip service to universal healthcare, we probably wouldn’t be seeing the influx of liberals into the socialist fray that we are. Their incompetence has been working quite well for us.

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 7 points 7 hours ago

The type of people attracted to being a neoliberal politician are charisma sinks for the most part nowadays

[-] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 20 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I can’t tell if the Mamdani enthusiasts are secret cops or if the “anyone who attempts any change short of total revolution is bad but also adventurism is bad, only IRL organizing that will also be derailed by bickering is good but also anything that those organizations might do to improve conditions within capitalism is bad but also accelerationism is bad” people are secret cops.

[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 30 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

If you think everything is good, you're a cop. If you think some things are good, you're a cop. If you think nothing is good, you're a cop.

I'm all honesty, just stop paying attention to media circus. If you are gonna judge Mamdani, at least judge him on his policy failures and not dumbass shit that he has to say to not be instantly assassinated by the NYPD.

[-] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 7 points 6 hours ago

He's been delivering on economic relief for New Yorkers with his policies, and part of that included getting Hochul's support for state funding. Mamdani hasn't dismantled the NYPD and his rhetoric on international policy is lame sometimes, but on using his actual power he's improving the lives of the working class of NYC.

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 33 points 12 hours ago
[-] Renin@hexbear.net 6 points 6 hours ago

Popularizing Socialism is only good if you can deliver on the promises, if you can't the consequences are of an epic proportion.

[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 9 points 7 hours ago

fart sniffing idealism

[-] jack@hexbear.net 18 points 9 hours ago

There's a portion of this that's true, but all it will ever achieve is "normalizing". There's some value in that, but I kinda think polling suggests: mission accomplished! Most Americans think socialism is pretty normal, especially young ones. Our job is to actually build socialism as a material reality, not a normal idea.

[-] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 17 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

"Yes, man-on-twitter. That is how you redefine socialism to be palatable to liberals. They will still turn you in though."

That said, there has been a massive upswing in people even just talking about socialism, which is kinda funny and scary... But like people don't even know what Marxism is, negative or positive, around where I am. Hell, most of them don't know it's even communism, which is extremely funny when you can get them to agreed with Marxist points after they have spent like fifteen minutes bashing socialism.

But literally most people around where I am all hate the Democrats, but some of them love Republicans. But by hating the Democrats I am able to make some level of educational leeway. Maybe not as impactful, but at least I know people who I can talk about real ass socialist history with, some of whom then proceeded to educate themselves on it after I introduced them to the concepts.

And part of my own education came from a guy I lived with whose roommate was the boyfriend of someone who was extremely involved in the National DSA. Extremely well versed, extremely Marxist, extremely anti-imperial and pro-Palestine.

Mamdani is must less interesting than the DSA, but it is unfortunate how much energy has been diverted to this guy and not the party apparatus itself.

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 34 points 12 hours ago

"Socialism" in their eyes is nordic countries with free healthcare and that's about it. And while universal healthcare is a good goal (even though it will literally never happen in the imperial core) that alone is not socialism. Speaking to the choir, duh, but so many burgerlanders are like "yeah I'm a socialist, I like Denmark" smuglord

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 16 points 10 hours ago

it's fine if john q. public supports "socialism" but doesn't know what it actually is as long as comrades are in control of the movement.

party for socialism and liberation? well i don't know what liberation is but i like socialism and partying! ✅

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 20 points 11 hours ago

Lol they also called him a Nazi. Makes you think.

[-] AvocadoVapelung@hexbear.net 26 points 12 hours ago
[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 9 points 7 hours ago

death to the burger reich holy shit

[-] miz@hexbear.net 27 points 11 hours ago

negative stop stop I'm already demoralized

[-] agentant@hexbear.net 25 points 11 hours ago

Trying to figure out which of these is the most wrong.

[-] MLRL_Commie@hexbear.net 4 points 5 hours ago

I dont know any of these faces, but they look like classic genocidaires, and considering the content of such shit, I'm gonna assume thats true

[-] agentant@hexbear.net 4 points 5 hours ago

They're US presidents(and a presidential candidate) so that's a given

[-] MLRL_Commie@hexbear.net 2 points 5 hours ago

Oh shit the names were just under the faces. For some reason my eyes didnt notice the red text

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 18 points 10 hours ago

Surely Johnson was the most rabidly anti-communist?

[-] agentant@hexbear.net 14 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, also afaik the closest he got to being a socialist was the Civil Rights Act of 64 and 68, and those were mostly Kennedy's thing he just inherited. He was the guy they put in because Kennedy wasn't hawkish enough so he's the worst. Similarly, the only thing I can think of Eisenhower doing to fit the bill was coining the term Military-Industrial Complex during his exit speech, which was good and influential but idk if it makes up for his hawkishness. Teddy at least had Sherman Anti-trust and economic views more fitting of a socdem. FDR and Sanders are the only ones that kinda make sense since they're actual socdems. Still a stupid list.

[-] MeetMeAtTheMovies@hexbear.net 24 points 11 hours ago

Well Bernie wasn’t even close to being a president so probably that one

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