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Twonks | Bluesky

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TW😶NKS

A comic in four panels:

Panel 1. White text on black

AI Design Logic

Panel 2. A guy sits in a restaurant at a table with a checkered table cloth. A waiter stands near, hands behind back waiting attentively.

Guy: Get me a cheese pizza

Panel 3. The waiter returns with a pizza in hand.

Panel 4. The guy gestures proudly at the pizza. The waiter looks less than amused.

Guy: Wow, look what I made!

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

the best part is that the waiter stole it from another restaurant

[-] Glytch@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

*from the dumpsters of several other restaurants

[-] cockmushroom@reddthat.com 13 points 1 day ago

How is this different from what anybody who hires or employs people do?

[-] qarbone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

This reads like a rebuttal but I'm not seeing it a contradiction.

If you don't provide the ideas, manage the logistics, supply the labor, test for quality, etc., then I wouldn't say that you were a part of making it. You're an investor, certainly, but that's not a maker.

[-] PhenomenJan@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

I think most people leading a team would say "we built this". Personally, if I hire someone to build something for me, I'd say something like "I had this built" intead of saying I built it myself.

I think there should be a short form for "I had AI do this for me"... "I prompted" maybe?

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

People very comfortably say "Company made this", or "we made this" regarding a place they work even if not on the team if talking to someone external.
When people get houses built they often say they're building a new house, even if it's actually someone else doing every part of it.

There's a part of our language that lends itself to having the cause of a thing be responsible for the thing.

The closer it gets to being something you could have personally done every part of and another person is involved the more we tend to draw back, which is why the AI art language grates a bit.

My coworker said he's building a cabin up north: I have no uncertainty at all that he's approving a design and someone else is doing it.
I wouldn't say I put up a handrail on my stairs: it's plausible I could have, but I didn't (it's an awkward space with weird stud spacing, and I have older family I want to be able to rely on it, so I paid someone with licensing to do it right in 20 minutes). I don't want to take credit for what I didn't do.

With the art, only one person actually caused it to be made. But it also feels like taking credit for something more difficult than it was.
If I drop a bucket of paint off a balcony, I wouldn't say "I caused a giant mess to be made", but "I made a giant mess".
If I pointed at it and said "I have made art", people would assume I was joking, despite a surface similarity to some art. The amount of effort is disproportional to the claim.

[-] qarbone@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

I believe the "part of our language that lends itself to having the cause of a thing be responsible for the thing" (in the contexts you give examples for) is just the human desire to be included in what's happening, even if you shouldn't be. If we were honest, we would callout these inaccurate claims. But it is a component of social lubrication that we ignore minor inaccuracies. We allow white lies because the cost of pursuing them is greater than the value of uncovering them.

That is not the case with people falsely claiming ownership of things genAI has made for them. Presumably because we understand that the person "building their house" is not building their own house from scratch. And so it doesn't erode the foundation of architecture to allow that inaccuracy. Carpentry as a profession won't be written off because Business Chett heard someone say "anyone can build a home (by having someone else do it for them)."

[-] Deebster@infosec.pub 1 points 1 hour ago

People will say "we won the game", even if they've never even attended a match or bought official merch.

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[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 182 points 2 days ago

Rich people think this way for everything

[-] jtrek@startrek.website 54 points 2 days ago

That's one of the core injustices of capitalism.

Rich person says "Build a thing"

Workers design, research, and build the thing.

Rich person keeps the profits.

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[-] homes@piefed.world 59 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That’s why they don’t see any problem with replacing workers with AI. They think AI will do X better than humans do just like machines could build X better than humans could at the beginning of the industrial revolution.

But the cost benefit analysis often proves to be quite the opposite in the long-term, despite deceptive short-term gains. But a short-term gains seem to be all that businesses seem to care about.

[-] snooggums@piefed.world 52 points 2 days ago

They like AI because it doesn't provide feedback about their ideas being less than perfect.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago
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[-] lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

Obviously never used AI. How it really goes is that you ask for a cheese pizza and after you spend hours and a bunch of money on tokens, you get an onion and peanut butter pizza with no cheese and you go, "Fuck it. Close enough."

[-] blackjam_alex@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You forgot the part where they steal the pizzas from other parlors to sell them as thier own.

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[-] lime@feddit.nu 61 points 2 days ago

you know, i've tried to defend some usage in the past, explaining my processes and the many steps of manual refinement, masking, and layerwork i put in to things, how i only run local models with open weights, how all my power comes from hydro etc etc

but as the tools keep evolving i've realised nobody else seems to actually care about the process. the pro-people just want as much slop as possible. someone likened it to a slot machine, where you keep pulling just because. that's where we are now.

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[-] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

But the pizza was stolen from the store down the street

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[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 days ago

This, but you don't get a pizza, you get a wheel of iron, colored in brown with glue on top of it.

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