I need a browser extension that does this for me.
If you can find a unique product or part number for the product, searching that will often bring up a short list of sites that sell that exact product.
I haven't bought a single thing off Amazon in over ten years, since they pissed me off. I don't even comparison shop Amazon to see whether I'm paying more, that's how much I hate them. I'll pay more to not use Amazon. Also, nothing I'm buying online is something I can't do without, and sometimes I just don't buy it--shocking, I know.
Try to not use google in the process too.
Hang on now. I'm shopping on the Internet because I don't know how to buy stuff in real life.
How am I supposed to not use Google?
I tried that last year with a power supply, but the little German company that made it sold it only on Amazon :-(
Yeah, this is frustrating. Especially when they don't tell you they use Amazon for fulfillment, and Amazon shows up at your door unexpectedly.
Have issue with product. Return process is abysmal and chargeable. End up wishing you bought from Amazon.
One big antitrust issue with Amazon is that they require vendors to use their fulfillment services in order to get the best terms on being listed on Amazon: prime shipping, etc.
That deal for shipping/fulfillment itself isn't too bad, even if they charge a pretty high price to sellers for the service, because the seller is actually getting something valuable in return, and it's hard for Amazon to promise fast shipping not in their control.
But the FTC lawsuit a while back alleged that Amazon does more than that. They downgrade the search results of anyone who isn't a paying advertiser, so they're squeezing sellers in more ways than one. And worse, part of the contract for fulfillment is a prohibition on competing with Amazon's listed price.
So if you're selling something that you need $30 to earn a profit, and it costs you 40% to list on Amazon, you'll need to list it at $50 on Amazon in order to make your profit, and you've hamstrung yourself from selling that same thing for $30 on your own site and turning the same profit by cutting Amazon out. That's what's anticompetitive and harms the consumer, even when that consumer intentionally avoids Amazon and goes straight to the seller's own site.
For real brands this is the way. If you want to get the one made by hhsjneaq or something, then use Amazon.
Simply not true. You can find those on other sites, too. Often straight from Alibaba Express.
Maybe that can work but you can't get rid of Amazon just by shopping elsewhere. It's important to also push for anti-monopoly legislation and enforcement, and of course that labor law be properly enforced so that Amazon has to pay people better wages.
Amazon is like a marketplace. People and companies should be allowed to sell their products on the marketplace, but any one company or person shouldn´t be allowed to own the marketplace itself, and abuse that position for their own benefit, because it would be to the detriment of all. The marketplace should belong to the people, should be open to everyone.
It would seem that such a model would be able to compete easily, so I reckon in time it will come to be, if people put the work in. Sellers and buyers alike all have an incentive to cut amazon out of the deal. The only problem is buyers are lazy, so although can they can bypass Amazon now, most of them won´t. So we need the fair open-access marketplace so people can one-stop-shop in a way that's just.
Your are basically just making the case for nationalisation (which I agree with). Amazon, bol.com, Uber, all these things could be (inter)national services managed by and for the public.
That company is more often than not Aliexpress.
Nah, I've boycotted scamazon since December 2020. I'm buying more things from physical shops. Second hand things like books or dvds I still get from ebay.
2b. Company thinks their online store is a boutique and sell the stuff for 50% more than Amazon
Somehow it happens even more often with small businesses. My city is small and irrelevant, so when I saw a book with the history of it, I wanted to buy it. On Amazon it was sold for 15% off, on marketplace directly by the publisher + free shipping. So I went to buy it on the publisher website and... MSRP + need to pay shipping
This publisher was doing a war price against itself. A small niche book where you're the only one to sell it. Why would you need to discount this heavily on Amazon?
Numbers:
On Amazon: 13€ + shipping paid by the seller (+customer has free returns in one month). They can't have more than 50 cents of profit for each copy sold
On their own website: 15€+5€ shipping (+customer needs to pay 7€ to return it within 2 weeks). Healthy profit for each copy sold.
You need to be an anti-bezos activist to choose the second option, though.
Somehow it happens even more often with small businesses
"Somehow"… amazon forcing all sellers on their platform to give them the best price or risk being delisted
2.a.i.) find out they don't have an actual shop, they just send you to Amazon
Nah. Amazon is quicker, no shipping fees, solid return policy and I don't need to break out the credit card and play challenge puzzles with my bank to use it online. I'll do my best to support local retailers on foot, but if I'm ordering online, I want quick and reliable. Sadly, that's Amazon for now.
Oh you are paying the shipping fee. It's only factored into the item price. That's why sometime you can't simply buy one item but at least two or five. They won't send you just one.
Company sign contracts with Amazon saying they will not sell it for anywhere less than the Amazon price.
Order from them and it ends up being fulfilled by Amazon anywhere.
I buy local now wherever possible even if it costs a bit more, so Amazon orders have dropped right off. Weirdly the only thing I seem to struggle with is protective cases (for the brands I want) both for a phone and a switch. Their own store was more expensive than Amazon, so just had to take the hit on that one.
My family mostly boycotted Amazon after their pullback from diversity initiatives, amongst other things (anti-union behavior). We spend 80% less than we used to. The drop is probably even bigger than that because we had a kid just before we started boycotting and so our spending increased significantly. We will buy from Amazon if we have no other options, but 80% of the time there are plenty of other options and often they are cheaper.
Amazon has Toddleroo products, but you can also buy them direct from the manufacturer at northstatesind.com and with the WELCOME10 coupon code it’s actually cheaper than Amazon, and you can use it more than once.
We also switched to shopping a ton more from Costco. Some products automatically get free shipping, like diaper genie refills. Costco didn’t back down from diversity initiatives so I basically said Take My Money (we already were avid Costco Warehouse shoppers).
The biggest challenge is shipping costs. I either have to order enough to meet the manufacturer’s minimum to get free shipping, or eat the shipping cost. That being said, Prime is like $180 a year? Even if I pay for shipping I think I am still saving money.
Been doing this for a couple of years now. Sometimes I end up paying a bit more or have to pay for shipping but that’s better than using Amazon for me. If I can’t find it I do without.
- you have issues with the product but can not reach the company or get your money back etc.
- the company has a massive data leak and your data is now openly available.
This is not to defend Amazon, but I - we - sadly are dependant on big companies. That's what made Amazon big, service. I'd gladly pay more somewhere else but have been burned too much.
It's a bad vs bad situation and we ants won't solve it in a legal way.
This used to be a thing but hasn't been for quite a while now to the best of my knowledge. It's hard to outcompete Amazon's logistics as a small seller, their whole store business operates at less than a 3% profit margin and they have scale to drive costs down which small sellers don't. They effectively subsidize the logistics with AWS, there's a reason Amazon became a monopoly after all.
I cancelled Prime when dickface got elected and have not had a single issue since.
Not here at least. Most small companies spin up a Shopify front and offer much better prices. Amazon has the worst prices for literally everything.
Last time I did this I ordered from the companies website actually paid a couple dollars more and it shipped from an Amazon warehouse.
I bought a tamagotchi from ebay and it came in an amazon bag 😭😭
Yeah, I was gonna say "how many of those companies are actual full on companies and not just dropshippers using Amazon regardless of where you buy?" Cuz that's a lot.
I do not get the appeal of Amazon. Every time I go there to buy something its filled with knock of junk at regular prices.
- Amazon still delivered the product because they use Amazon for their own fulfillment.
Literally just had this happen.
Increasing cases of ebay and individual vendors dropshipping from amazon.
Ohh i'll just spend an extra 5 to keep bezos out of it...
Bezos still gets his cut and some asshole just ordered it to my address for a fiver.
ah yes, i do love buying from GAAMALASORF LLC. the family photos on their website are so charming.
Sometimes.
I was getting something I wanted and their website just referred me back to buying from Amazon. I emailed them because I was curious as to why. It was a pretty niche thing to buy. The guy emailed me back saying that the sales through Amazon keeping his listing towards the top of their algorithm made him more than if he sold direct and his Amazon listing would drop down lower in the search because so many people just go to Amazon.
In other words, Amazon is a cancer trap, and as long as most people go straight there to buy shit, sellers have to sell as much as they can on there.
3a it shows up in an Amazon box delivered by an Amazon truck.
Or you go to their site and they just direct you to Amazon -- and not because they're lazy, to sell on Amazon you need to agree that you won't offer the product cheaper than Amazon anywhere else, including on your own site.
And, that's even assuming you can go to the manufacturer's site. Often instead you'll just get a facebook page, or maybe not even that.
Pro tip for manufacturers: sell a slightly different model number with more features on your own site if possible...
Or bundle one of them with something extra, so it's not technically the same product and not subject to the price restrictions...
I'm not sure where many people in this thread are from, but I have a question in case some of you who are complaining about, "I don't really have a choice," are from the US. Do you guys not have other online retailers? I thought the US would have Walmart, Target, Costco, etc. so that you could avoid using Amazon.
In Japan we don't have brick and mortar retail stores like the ones I mentioned above that carry all sorts of random products, but we do have Rakuten, which is an online shop/marketplace similar to Amazon. Does Amazon really have a grip on all online retail there?
Walmart and Target are just as bad as Amazon. Bad examples. I'm from the US and haven't used Amazon in 2 years. I just search for other online retailers and I've always been able to find what I'm looking for at a price less or equal to what I'd pay Amazon. I don't get the pro-Amazon arguments.
There are a plethora of options, but many will not tolerate even a millisecond of inconvenience to find a new website. Honestly, many of the alternative websites even ship faster at this point. Amazon is a marketplace of crap riding on former glory days of quick shipping.
Amazon will do same-day delivery on a bunch of stuff if you're in an area where it's available. You can order shit while you're at work and have it dropped off at your house by the time you're home without having to stop at a store.
I don't live where same-day is available, but even ordering for pickup at brick and mortar adds 20+ minutes to my commute. A few minutes out of the way, waiting at the store, and hitting multiple traffic lights both ways isn't a negligible amount of time.
How many things actually need to be delivered on the same day though?
A few years ago, my radiator decided to break in the middle of a cold snap. I could deal with it, but I had an elderly budgie, but since I don't have a car and I'm a weedy old lady, I had to order from Curry's (in the past I would have gone straight to Amazon). Luckily it arrived the same day, no delivery charge. Even then, I would have just used a hot water bottle next to my budgie's cage if the radiator hadn't come that day.
I'm not sure why I told that story. But in any case, it was definitely a better outcome than ordering some no name brand that Amazon is filled with.
I hear the "same day delivery" to justify Amazon a lot, but I do wonder how many things actually need next day delivery and how did such people survive before that? Are people not keeping track of what's running out? How many times would you need an emergency radiator replacement during a cold snap?
Of course I live in London and most things I need are walking distance or easily reachable by bus. So I have that on my side.
But yeah for me, the way they treat their staff, the way they protect bad faith sellers (see Louis rossman's videos on how they respond to reports of unsafe items), racketeering (stealing marketplace supplier info and undercutting, see pirate trading's tripods) means that as long as I have alternatives, even if they are also corpos, I will never willingly buy from scamazon again.
$4 XOOMJI sandals do not exist outside of amazon lmao
Edit: this comment is not pro-amazon.
Some places don’t. 3M, for example, in spite of how big it is. I needed P100 filters. I go to 3M which links me to Amazon. I could go to Home Depot, or buy from the Amazon 3M store and pay 2/3 to half.
WEN. A tool company that actually sells their own from their site. For whatever reason, their stuff is 10% more expensive on their own site, plus shipping.
And let’s not forget returns, which are free, easy and require no packaging most of the time with Amazon. I hate to say it, but they’ve got keeping people hooked figured out.
Walmart does well. The shipping is faster with no membership. And the returns are easier than Amazon. Provided you make sure the “fulfilled by Walmart” box is checked. But it’s Walmart, run by shitheads and associated with Heritage.
Michaels does alright on the crafting materials side. As does Blick, on art supplies. Fabric Warehouse is fairly solid for fabric though their selection is a bit random.
People I’ve talked to actually like shopping in just one place. So you’re combatting the “one stop shopping” thing as well.
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