I'm not against EVs, I'm against subscriptions for a vehicle that already costs more than $60k and feels like toy.

American auto manufactutereeurs are trying to sell us $60k cars in an economy where we can barely afford usedslop.

I would consider buying a new EV as long as it was affordable, safe, good quality, and didn't spy on me. Otherwise, I'm sticking with old manuals and bikes.

Also, anyone who wants to charge me a subscription to use anything on the vehicle I own can eat all of my shit and hair.

Yeah, it's because the vehicles that are selling so incredibly well in Europe aren't available in the US, namely the BYD range.

One of the largest issues is the American mindset when it comes to buying vehicles. Many people consider all of their needs, even those that might be yearly. Most EVs have the range to handle 99% of most peoples trips, but they consider that last 1% of a yearly road trip when thinking about range. It's one of the reasons that Trucks and SUVs are so popular with their higher capability.

The reason Americans don't buy EVs is because all EVs sold in America are:

1. More expensive than their ICE equivalents initially
2. Are made by idiots like GM who make their cars only pre-2023 or for one year in 2026 (seriously GM just make the fucking Bolt)
3. Nissan.....who just FINALLY got it through their fucking heads that air cooled batteries and Chademo are bad ideas as they're about to go bankrupt
4. Are Tesla and financially supports the trillionaire neo-nazi.

There are very few basic, cheap EVs on the American market. Tesla is really the only one and most of us refuse to support that prick.

I just bought a used 2023 Bolt EUV a few months ago. Absolutely love the thing. I got it for $15.5k and it still has 5 years of warranty. And GM decided "hey....you know that car you love? We're going to stop making it because it doesn't have the margins our big boi SUV gas guzzlers have. Sorry and fuck you".

Says the CEO of a luxury EV brand that only makes SUVs and pick-ups that sell for >60k. Can't imagine why no one is interested...

From my experience reading the various articles everywhere and driving an EV exclusively since 2018... it is 100% misinformation, largely based on media coverage. And the media's lack of updates as technology has advanced quickly. Not all of it is intentional misinformation, some is just obviously ignorance by whoever is covering the topic.

There is the disinformation campaigns from the fossil fuel lobby, but that is separate from just poor journalism and people not updating their beliefs from previous reports they heard years prior.

Most US manufacturers have only produced the minimum EVs required for things tax breaks. And several of the big foreign manufacturers selling in the US have done the same, or cancelled plans to expand. Or they're focused on Hydrogen still for some reason despite 2+ decades proving that's a failed technology for consumer use.

So you really just have new startups on the scene, like Rivian, and Lucid, and a couple companies making mid EVs that clearly still use ICE thinking and just have an EV powertrain dropped in them, not taking advantage of the things they can do without an ICE engine.

A big indicator of this is if they still have an Engine Start/Stop button. There is no reason for that to exist in most EVs, especially if it has a mobile app and can have settings changed and starting things remotely. The vehicle is never "off" so there's nothing to start, just have it turn "on" when the key is inside. Tesla has done this basically since the beginning just fine. Getting in an EV and having to press a useless button just because that's what the ICE version needed is pointless and shows a lack of real development for the vehicle.

Go back 10-15 years (and ignore everything we've learned about Elon Musk.) Tesla's were objectively cool.

But now they're high priced, and software locked, track everything you do and everywhere you go, will trap you inside if caught on fire, require costly body work if in a fender bender which also takes forever, have replaced buttons with screens and door handles with software, and depreciate like a lead balloon.

No, dumbass, we're not against EVs, we're against your version of EVs. If Honda ever puts out an Accord EV with Android Auto / Car Play (and priced appropriately), the EV wars are over. That's all we want.