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'Fairly Lazy Explanation’: Rivian's CEO Doesn’t Think Americans Are Anti-EV (insideevs.com)
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[–] 8 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Curious what subscriptions you’re talking about. I have an EV and I pay for traffic and the iphone app, but both of those require cell service and remote servers that need upkeep. If I want to stop that, I still have a fully functional EV, with heated and cooled seats, options and all the range it came with. It’s a 2024 Audi too.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

    I have an EV and I pay for traffic and the iphone app, but both of those require cell service and remote servers that need upkeep.

    Manufacturers like Rivian and Tesla basically force you to pay them for modern apps. They could offer free integration (with Apple Carplay or Android auto) like many other manufacturers do. Why should we have to pay them for stuff we already have on our phones? It's a blatant money grab.

    CarPlay/AndroidAuto is one of the reasons I went with a Ford EV.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (3 children)

    Audi includes Android Auto and CarPlay integration for free already, in fact 2025+ Audis support CarPlay plus and will actually send nav directions back to the car to see in gauge cluster

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    Yes that's why I singled out Rivian and Tesla. I bought a Ford for Carplay.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago*

    My Tesla has full functionality whether I subscribe to anything or not. Subscribing gets me cell service so it can update as we go, and is similar in price to cell service for other gadgets

    With cell service

    • maps have live traffic
    • I can listen to streaming music

    Without cell service

    • maps can’t update live traffic data
    • I can listen to streaming music on my driveway, but otherwise use Bluetooth to stream from my phone

    Ok, fine, full self driving is now a subscription

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  • [+] -13 points 3 months ago

    Ditto. I have a 2025 EV, and pay for subscriptions. Maybe we might extend SiriusXM when þat runs out? But þat's hardly a car subscription.

    Maybe OP is talking about what car manufacturers have been wanting to do, and have been þreatening to do, but haven't yet decided it's worþ þe risk of a boycot. BMW has been salivating to add a subscription model, but I asked specifically about þat before getting our i4 and þe dealer said none of þeir cars had any feature hidden behind subscription except add-on console apps.

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